[sane-devel] Fujitsu SP-1130Ne proprietary protocol

Tue Aug 15 06:17:36 BST 2023

Well, I've made an archive of some scans and pcaps I can share, and OEM
software installers and its Program Files dirs in windows for study:
https://ur.bcroan.com/1130Ne/

I was hoping to get it running in wine but there's a lot of .net and
windows gui helper dependencies that wine lacks

for me usb cable feels wrong because I use a laptop -- I am itinerant
computer user.  I have no designated 'place in the house' to use my laptop,
instead wandering aimlessly.  The scanner has a place on a credenza with no
chair.  I need to drop the days' mail into it, then access it over the
network from a sofa or bed or kitchen counter

I included a pcaps at https://ur.bcroan.com/1130Ne/ of scanner discovery,
and a pcap of a single sheet (front and back) and a 3 sheet (6 pages front
and back) scans, and the resultant PDFs.

The scanner is 192.168.35.100 in these caps.

Is there a better place for this? than email?  a wiki maybe?  I feel like
when someone searches for sane Ricoh/fujitsu SP 1130Ne support they should
be able to find this thread and these pcaps for a more clear answer than
"not supported" for a not exact match model number 13 years ago.

Requesting update to http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-FUJITSU
perhaps with link to this thread and the pcaps I took?

I asked fujitsu/pfu/richo's support and they said:
TSupport at fujitsu.com
Tue, Aug 8, 4:54 PM (7 days ago)

Hi Billy,
No Ricoh does not have any scanners that support eSCL or WSD protocols.
Melissa T
Toll Free Number: 1-800-626-4686
Technical Assistance Center
PFU America, Inc.
Fujitsu Scanner Store: https://www.fujitsuscannerstore.com
Website: https://www.pfu-us.ricoh.com/

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From: Billy Croan <Billy at croan.org>
Date: Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [sane-devel] What scanners are the developers using?
To: Robert <robert at wallum.net>
Cc: <sane-devel at alioth-lists.debian.net>

Well, I got a Fujitsu SP-1130Ne in, and it totally does not work out of the
box with Linux over the network. It sports some sort of proprietary udp
discovery protocol using SOAP. Single bcast from the PC and unicast
response from scanner.

Scanning is done on a much higher, TCP port.  Neither port seem very
documented anywhere online.

The TCP port gets a few dozen short connections prior to a scan that send
16 bytes and get 32 back. Then it sends 16, gets 64, and then gets a
multi-meg JFIF BLOB in one big connection.

Wireshark did not really understand anything deeper than TCP but I could
see XML soap in the udp bytes and a JFIF header on the TCP.

I have some pcaps I can share semi privately.  I would like to scan a book
or something for a public pcaps is there is a repository of those, for sane
devs.

I'm also going to probably return this model.  Because even in Windows, it
maxes out at 17 inches long.  Any longer and it throws a jam error, and
well, that's just not enough if you shop at Walgreens....

So let me know any useful specific observations I could make, and where to
write them down.  A SANE wiki like the openwrt wiki maybe?

And I'll do some more scans with a pcap i feel fine publishing before i
return this thing.

And I have to humbly beg again, anyone on this list able to recommend an IP
enabled ADF that can scan arbitrarily long documents?  I want to say 24
inch long should be enough, but who knows, maybe 36 to be safe.  I wish I
was joking.  Can't tell you how many times I've had to fold them in half
and scan twice and merge in gscan2pdf....

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 16:44 Robert <robert at wallum.net> wrote:

> I'm using an HP Envy 6032e, Xsane and Ubuntu 22.04.2, cheap as chips. I
> needed to load ipp-usb to make it work initially. Now works as
> printer/scanner over LAN wirelessly. I don't have an ADF on this model
> but the Envy Pro 6455 does.
> Robert
>
> On 25/03/2023 00:10, m. allan noah wrote:
> > I do not have a Fujitsu scanner with network capabilities, nor any
> > documentation about the protocol they speak. I also have no need to
> > put something on the network that is sitting in arms reach :) So, I
> > have not added support to the fujitsu backend for these scanners.
> >
> > allan
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 9:22 AM Billy Croan <Billy at croan.org> wrote:
> >
> >     I'm "going paperless" and I have been using an epson and hp
> >     multifunction printer for their ADF, as well as an IRIScan for its
> >     ability to feed receipt paper and flat objects straight through.
> >     All of those devices have drawbacks and are showing age.
> >
> >     I'm thinking of buying a Fujitsu SnapScan ix1600 to replace them
> >     all.  From all accounts, that's one of if not the best out there.
> >     But I looked up support on
> >     http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-fujitsu.5.html and it said
> >     "Network interfaces are not supported on any scanner model."
> >
> >     That can't be right can it?  in 2023, the scanner model that I
> >     think most folks agree is the best, isn't supported over the network?
> >
> >     Are the docs just outdated, or is that real?  I thought I'd ask
> >     before spending $420 to find out, and maybe a dev would steer me
> >     towards other hardware if IP connectivity is a priority.
> >
> >     priorities:
> >     ADF 30 or more pages
> >     simultaneous (single pass) duplex imaging
> >     handles receipts
> >     handles credit cards with bumps
> >     handles cardboard/thicker/non-bending materials (I guess this
> >     isn't a deal breaker)
> >     8.5" wide with a little overscan
> >     14" long, hopefully longer for occasional weird stuff
> >     IP connectivity, happy with ethernet or wifi
> >     never, ever misfeeds (hahaha just kidding)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "well, I stand up next to a mountain- and I chop it down with the edge
> > of my hand"
>
>
>
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