<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Fair enough Allan, it's not much use just putting out vague questions really ---<div><br></div><div>So, I have taken apart an old canon lide scanner and removed the light source and the focussing array to expose purely the CIS sensor (a long strip of photosensitive metal). I have affixed this scanning head into the film plane of an old large format camera so that the image that is projected through the lens focusses exactly on the plane of the scanner head. </div><div>Basically its a scanner-camera - the scanner reads down the image plane and sees the light of the scene projected through the lens rather than the reflected light of a document on the glass. The problem being that if the scanner tries to calibrate beforehand, it gets confused because there is no light entering the CIS because i've ripped the light out and there's no light-point to calibrate against.</div><div><br></div><div> Now this all worked fine with the prototype i made because I was using the plustec backend (Lide 20 or 30) . i could change these options in the SANE preferences window/file-- however now i'm trying to scan faster and higher res - i realise this new LIDE (60) that i have just got hold of uses this genesys backend ... thus I am now confused - i'm sure its still possible, i just need to find the way!!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Hopefully this helps clarify somewhat my intentions..</div><div><br></div><div>Below is what I got with scanimage -d genesys --help</div><div>I tried after this to input "scanimage --help -d DEVICE" - but I think i may need use the usb codes provided in the preference file? </div><div><br></div><div>Let me know what you think??</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your Help - it's much appreciated</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ben</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(84, 0, 0); "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(84, 0, 0); "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(84, 0, 0); "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(84, 0, 0); "><div>lisalisa-airport:~ lisalisa$ scanimage --help -d DEVICE</div><div>Usage: scanimage [OPTION]...</div><div><br></div><div>Start image acquisition on a scanner device and write image data to</div><div>standard output.</div><div><br></div><div>Parameters are separated by a blank from single-character options (e.g.</div><div>-d epson) and by a "=" from multi-character options (e.g. --device-name=epson).</div><div>-d, --device-name=DEVICE use a given scanner device (e.g. hp:/dev/scanner)</div><div> --format=pnm|tiff file format of output file</div><div>-i, --icc-profile=PROFILE include this ICC profile into TIFF file</div><div>-L, --list-devices show available scanner devices</div><div>-f, --formatted-device-list=FORMAT similar to -L, but the FORMAT of the output</div><div> can be specified: %d (device name), %v (vendor),</div><div> %m (model), %t (type), %i (index number), and</div><div> %n (newline)</div><div>-b, --batch[=FORMAT] working in batch mode, FORMAT is `out%d.pnm' or</div><div> `out%d.tif' by default depending on --format</div><div> --batch-start=# page number to start naming files with</div><div> --batch-count=# how many pages to scan in batch mode</div><div> --batch-increment=# increase page number in filename by #</div><div> --batch-double increment page number by two, same as</div><div> --batch-increment=2</div><div> --batch-prompt ask for pressing a key before scanning a page</div><div> --accept-md5-only only accept authorization requests using md5</div><div>-p, --progress print progress messages</div><div>-n, --dont-scan only set options, don't actually scan</div><div>-T, --test test backend thoroughly</div><div>-h, --help display this help message and exit</div><div>-v, --verbose give even more status messages</div><div>-B, --buffer-size=# change input buffer size (in kB, default 32)</div><div>-V, --version print version information</div><div>scanimage: open of device DEVICE failed: Invalid argument</div><div>Type ``scanimage --help -d DEVICE'' to get list of all options for DEVICE.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></span></div><div><br></div><div>Ben<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 11 Feb 2011, at 19:52, m. allan noah wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>There are options for the image cropping area in the list, no? (-x -y, etc)<br><br>I don't know why you want uncalibrated data, it will look terrible.<br>How about you tell us what you are trying to do :)<br><br>allan<br><br>On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Ben Green <<a href="mailto:greenb1@mac.com">greenb1@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Ha ha - thanks Allan - it worked.. and i pulled up the options too..<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">HOWEVER - my (ongoing) problem is that i need to switch off the calibration section of the scan process so that i receive a raw data feed.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Is there further settings I can effect? For example in the plustec backend, I was able to adjust crop area, gain, calibration on/off etc.. is this just not an option with genesys? Is there someone who can do such things? (certainly I can't - i couldn't even get the command into terminal!!)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ben<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 11 Feb 2011, at 19:38, m. allan noah wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">It is a command. you run it in the terminal. If you got no text back,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">try running this instead:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">scanimage -L<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">allan<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Ben Green <<a href="mailto:greenb1@mac.com">greenb1@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 10 Feb 2011, at 05:24, stef wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Le Wednesday 09 February 2011 18:01:08 Ben Green, vous avez écrit :<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I'm trying to configure various actions inside my Lide 60 such as<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">analogue gain, tinkering with the calibration and the crop area that<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">it scans with.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The backend seems to have been abandoned on the support front -<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">scanning is no problem, worked first time - its just this .conf file<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">that i cannot drive? is there a list of commands I can feed into<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the .config file? like lamp on/off, red gain +3 ??? i'm afraid i dont<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">speak Genesys?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I have done this with some earlier LIDEs that worked with the plustec<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">backend - these were quite straightforward - i could open the SANE<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">prefs and turn calibration on/off, change gain and crop just by<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">changing some zeros and ones.. however this genesys backend has only a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">list of scanners and their model/product addresses - I don't know what<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">commands to put into the .conf file.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I'm using SANE: mac10.6:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> TWAIN SANE Interface 2.9 binary <a href="http://www.ellert.se/twain-sane/">http://www.ellert.se/twain-sane/</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">SANE Preference Pane 0.9 binary <a href="http://www.ellert.se/twain-sane/">http://www.ellert.se/twain-sane/</a> SANE<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">backends <a href="http://www.sane-project.org/">http://www.sane-project.org/</a> libusb 0.1.13 beta 2009-09-10<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">binary <a href="http://libusb.sourceforge.net/">http://libusb.sourceforge.net/</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Any Help is Much Appreciated..<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thnaks<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ben<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Hello,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> all user settable settings are published by the backend through options.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">You can get the full list of active options for your model with 'scanimage -d<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">genesys --help'. There is no options or settings to modify in the conf file.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Stef<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">sane-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sane-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">sane-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Unsubscribe: Send mail with subject "unsubscribe your_password"<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> to <a href="mailto:sane-devel-request@lists.alioth.debian.org">sane-devel-request@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi Steph,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Could you tell me how and where I use this command? (scanimage -d genesys --help)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Is it in the SANE prefs file? if so, do i enter the command under my particular scanner model?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I tried putting this command into terminal but got nothing back -<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sorry I cant profess to know much about command line interface..<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks for you help..<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ben<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">sane-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sane-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">sane-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Unsubscribe: Send mail with subject "unsubscribe your_password"<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> to <a href="mailto:sane-devel-request@lists.alioth.debian.org">sane-devel-request@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"The truth is an offense, but not a sin"<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br><br><br>-- <br>"The truth is an offense, but not a sin"<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>