<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Dear Jonas, Bernelle, Everyone,<br><br></div>I agree with what has been said.<br><br></div>I have shared the "draft call for comments" mail with the Two Sigma tem, and we will have comments in some weeks (the datathon team is on college tour).<br><br></div>Again: Two Sigma's interest will be primarily to promote Data Science awareness and skills, and subsidiarily (but it will make a difference) to promote using the beaker notebook.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div> Kris<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jonas Smedegaard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dr@jones.dk" target="_blank">dr@jones.dk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Quoting Bernelle Verster (2015-11-04 16:23:19)<br>
<span class="">> On the other hand, in Kris's competition people weren't forced to use<br>
> any particular box or software, but there was only support for Beaker.<br>
<br>
</span>A key strength of Beaker compared to other Notebook tools is, I believe,<br>
its ability to run on both Windows, MacOS and Linux, and to integrate<br>
with many software tools. Therefore not surprising to me that their<br>
competition was relaxed about those variables.<br>
<br>
A key strength of Debian compared to other operating systems is its<br>
ability to be deployed on many different hardware architectures -<br>
including cheap ARM boxes...<br>
<br>
Let's make this a demo of Debian's ability to run on cheap boxes. But a<br>
demo on _usability_ rather than _variety_ of that - so just one box that<br>
we tested ahead, exposed to users interested in a software challenge<br>
(not a variety of boxes less tested - that would require users<br>
interested in hardware tinkering).<br>
<span class=""><br>
<br>
> Another thought I'm still grappling with is how to build collaboration<br>
> and mentorship between student entrants and the wider Debian<br>
> community.<br>
<br>
</span>Maybe try get others involved who are already experienced with this:<br>
<a href="https://www.debian.org/women/mentoring" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/women/mentoring</a><br>
<a href="https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2015" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2015</a><br>
<span class=""><br>
<br>
> Then this raises more questions:<br>
</span>> * Will [any non-student] be able to buy the ShowMeBox for themselves?<br>
<br>
Short answer: Yes!<br>
<br>
ShowMeBox uses generally available hardware.<br>
<br>
Debian generally decides which hardware architectures to support based<br>
on a) availability of enthusiasts hacking on it and b) availability of<br>
the hardware in shops. As an example of that, the architecture we call<br>
"i386" nowadays is a subset of IA32 _excluding_ i386 and we currently<br>
discuss if it is time to also stop support i486 (or is it even i586?).<br>
<br>
Specifically, Olimex OLinuXino A20 LIME2 is for sale worldwide from<br>
Olimex themselves and also from multiple resellers.<br>
<span class=""><br>
<br>
> * and if so, could they subsidise the students' boxes? In other words,<br>
> we make e.g. 200% 'profit' on their Box that we then use to buy Boxes<br>
> for students?<br>
<br>
</span>I have no interest in that. If others do then enjoy!<br>
<br>
Beware that such activity might be too commercial in nature for Debian<br>
or SPI, so you may need to find some for-profit legal body to operate<br>
within.<br>
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- Jonas<br>
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