[Android-tools-devel] Serious bugs and errors in android tools and gradle build process on Debian 10 Buster.

[Fluff Rabbit]

sdkmanager is a whole other can of worms. If you use that tool on Debian, you're downloading packages from Google. If Debian packages those packages, you're downloading them from Debian the same way. I'm not sure if that fits into Debian's packaging philosophy.

On August 15, 2019 11:04:24 PM MDT, Alexander <remake347 at gmail.com> wrote:
>В Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:00:37 +0200
>Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at> пишет:
>
>> Alexander:
>> > В Thu, 15 Aug 2019 00:39:08 +0000
>> > Fluff Rabbit via Android-tools-devel
>> > <android-tools-devel at alioth-lists.debian.net> пишет:
>> > 
>> >> Vim is a Linux meme, but you really shouldn't need more than a
>text
>> >> editor to edit your Java,  C/C++, XML, etc. That way you know what
>> >> changes when things change, like when `android update project` was
>> >> deprecated in favor of Gradle. An IDE such as Android Studio hides
>> >> the details from you, and there are a lot of details with
>something
>> >> as complex as an APK. It's the little bugs that creep in and get
>> >> you, at least if you're relying on these packages.
>> >>
>> >> On August 14, 2019 2:36:01 PM MDT, Alexander <remake347 at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> В Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:29:57 +0000
>> >>> Fluff Rabbit via Android-tools-devel
>> >>> <android-tools-devel at alioth-lists.debian.net> пишет:
>> >>>
>> >>>> The GUI stuff just ain't Linux, man. VIM all the way.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> * Android Studio is an upstream first-party tool by design, not
>> >>>> really meant to be hacked with
>> >>>> * IntelliJ and NetBeans are indeed missing from repos (why?) but
>> >>>> personally I wouldn't use them for Android development as they
>> >>>> have too much baggage from Java SE, or at least NetBeans does
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On August 14, 2019 11:20:40 AM MDT, Alexander
>> >>>> <remake347 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Начало пересылаемого сообщения:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Дата: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:19:45 +0000
>> >>>>>> От: Fluff Rabbit via Android-tools-devel
>> >>>>>> <android-tools-devel at alioth-lists.debian.net> Кому:
>> >>>>>> android-tools-devel at alioth-lists.debian.net Тема: Re:
>> >>>>>> [Android-tools-devel] Serious bugs and errors in android tools
>> >>>>>> and gradle build process on Debian 10 Buster.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Welcome to the club. AFAIK Debian's Android build tools are
>> >>> broken.
>> >>>>>> I've complained so many times the devs have stopped
>responding.
>> >>>>>> In
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>> meantime, Debian includes installers for Google's tools from
>> >>>>>> Google, which I think are more likely to work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> In Debian I must to do many things by my hands. ;)
>> >>>>> But.. android tools from Google I can download from Windows OS.
>> >>>>> It's no need to use linux. I would like to see 100% working
>> >>>>> configuration in debian repositories and no need to download it
>> >>>> >from another sources. However I'm not find Android Studio IDE,
>> >>>>> IntelliJIDEA and NetBeans in repo.
>> >>>>>
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>> >>>
>> >>> What you reccomend for android developing? Where to see android
>> >>> virtual device (AVD) and form editor for future developed apk's?
>> >>> If I understood you offer to use vim and console but APK it's big
>> >>> project with many files including XML, JAR, BMP, JPG etc. However
>> >>> I need a graphical editors, XML-editors, 3D-editors and more like
>> >>> that.
>> >>>
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>> > 
>> > If I could to build my apk's in debian.... but not success. Errors.
>> > Maybe F-Droid project with bug or I need to come to Debian Squeeze
>> > (rather than Buster).
>> 
>> What is 100% clear is that the wiki needs to be updated.  And this
>> conversation has cleared up some things.  Could you update the wiki
>> page?  I think the instructions on the front AndroidTools page should
>> be moved and integrated into:
>> 
>> https://wiki.debian.org/AndroidTools/IntroBuildingApps
>> 
>> Then these details need to be updated:
>> 
>> * use LocationPrivacy and F-Droid Privileged Extension as example
>apps
>    Do you have URL of it? I'll try to clone it by GIT and to compile
>    by gradle for We are'll know is success or failure.
>> 
>> * remove F-Droid as an example app, or make it an advanced example
>    Do you think F-Droid are broken?
>> 
>> * set buildToolsVersion based on the version in stretch or buster
>    buildTools from Buster has be installed.
>> 
>> * remove android-sdk-helper and --init-gradle stuff, its only in sid
>    Why it's in SID but not in a Buster? I was try to compile an app by
>    "gradle build" too.
>> 
>> * libgradle-android-plugin-java is missing from buster, but present
>in
>>   stretch and sid
>    Why it's missing?
>> 
>> Anything else?
>   Yes. Too old version of gradle even in Buster.
>   Missing android emulator. But in wiki shows string "emulator .... "
>   in KVM section. Emulator is a part of sdkmanager which missing too.
>
>> 
>> .hc
>
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