[Freedombox-discuss] report on activities in Banja Luka

Ted Smith tedks at riseup.net
Wed Aug 10 13:47:59 UTC 2011


On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 06:33 -0700, J David Eisenberg wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
> > On 11-08-09 at 08:45pm, John Walsh wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> > I recommended Buddycloud as an initial sample application for FreedomBox
> > development, because it...
> >
> >  * is not written in java
> >  * is not written in PHP
> >  * uses XMPP (not reinventing messaging on top of http)
> >  * is actively being packaged for Debian (by me).
> >
> > Those are just my reasons, not show-stoppers for others: Please do work
> > on alternatives - would be awesome with friendly competition!
> >
> 
> Sorry, but I just had to put in my two cents' worth here: I agree with
> the last two reasons, but not the first two. Though there are some
> programming languages I prefer to others, I believe that you can write
> (bad) FORTRAN  in any programming language.
> (http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1039535)
> 
> That said, I was once asked, "which one is better, C or Pascal?" I
> replied, "Which one is better: a screwdriver or a hammer?" Tell me
> what you want to build, and there's your answer. That's why the
> language-agnostic buddycloud approach is appealing.
> 
> Purely out of curiosity, would you prefer Scala to Java? Same JVM, but
> a more "modern" language.

I think that the problem with Java isn't the language itself, but the
JVM. Since the freedombox is officially targeting plug computers, the
JVM's resource-heavy nature is problematic.
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