[Freedombox-discuss] Rouge Freedomboxes and government intervention

[Jonas Smedegaard]

On 11-06-28 at 02:55pm, bertagaz at ptitcanardnoir.org wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:39:43PM +0800, Sandy Harris wrote:
> > Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
> >
> > > I very much see the relevancy in separation of a "harmless 
> > > FreedomBox" and an "activism FreedomBox".
>  
> > I do not. If the Box defeats censorship and tracking, that in itself 
> > is revolutionary.
> 
> +1

+1

I fail to see a disagreement there.


> > > My point is that one point (out of several!) in the vision of 
> > > FreedomBox is that the world becomes a better place even if not 
> > > directly addressing then needs of activists ...
> > >
> > > I want to address the problem of central logging of the activities 
> > > of the masses _separately_ from the more complex problem of 
> > > activists needing secrecy, anonymity and other powerful features. 
> > >  Because the first is easier and quicker solved than the second. 
> > >  And because the first helps solve the second!
> > 
> > Exactly.
> 
> Well, I guess it depends on what "central logging of the activities of 
> the masses" means. First, there is no real "central" logging, no 
> unique big brother that the freedombox might want to defeat, but a lot 
> of different (from size to content) logging databases out there, 
> maintained by a lot of different actors.

When logs are controlled by a single entity, for 1000 people posting 
microblogging entries and 1000 other people reading the posts and 
tagging some authors as interesting to "follow", I consider the logging 
"central".


 - Jonas

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