[Freedombox-discuss] Rouge Freedomboxes and government intervention
dr at jones.dk
Tue Jun 28 13:21:49 UTC 2011
On 11-06-28 at 02:55pm, bertagaz at ptitcanardnoir.org wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:39:43PM +0800, Sandy Harris wrote:
> > Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
> > > I very much see the relevancy in separation of a "harmless
> > > FreedomBox" and an "activism FreedomBox".
> > I do not. If the Box defeats censorship and tracking, that in itself
> > is revolutionary.
I fail to see a disagreement there.
> > > My point is that one point (out of several!) in the vision of
> > > FreedomBox is that the world becomes a better place even if not
> > > directly addressing then needs of activists ...
> > >
> > > I want to address the problem of central logging of the activities
> > > of the masses _separately_ from the more complex problem of
> > > activists needing secrecy, anonymity and other powerful features.
> > > Because the first is easier and quicker solved than the second.
> > > And because the first helps solve the second!
> > Exactly.
> Well, I guess it depends on what "central logging of the activities of
> the masses" means. First, there is no real "central" logging, no
> unique big brother that the freedombox might want to defeat, but a lot
> of different (from size to content) logging databases out there,
> maintained by a lot of different actors.
When logs are controlled by a single entity, for 1000 people posting
microblogging entries and 1000 other people reading the posts and
tagging some authors as interesting to "follow", I consider the logging
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