[Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox-discuss Digest, Vol 22, Issue 13

Thu May 17 20:32:58 UTC 2012

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>    1. Re: hardware (Andrea Trentini)
>    2. Re: hardware (Jason)
>    3. Re: hardware (Rick)
>    4. Re: hardware (Nick Hardiman)
>    5. Next step in hardware? (Jack Wilborn)
>    6. Re: hardware (Jason)
>    7. Re: hardware (Philip Hands)
>    8. apt-get update and an SD card (Nicholas Hardiman)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:52:45 +0200
> From: Andrea Trentini <andrea.trentini at unimi.it>
> To: Nick Hardiman <nick at internetmachines.co.uk>
> Cc: FreedomBox discussions
> 	<freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] hardware
> Message-ID: <4FB502AD.3030202 at unimi.it>
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> On 05/17/2012 01:42 PM, Nick Hardiman wrote:
>> I am wondering what will become the third freedombox hardware
>> architecture (after the dreambox and guruplug). These ones have issues.
>>
>>  1. SolidRun
>>     CuBox, http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox, rumoured to exist
>>  2. FXI Cotton Candy, http://www.fxitech.com/products/, doesn't exist
>>  3. fit-PC3, http://www.fit-pc.com/web/introduction-to-fit-pc3/, too
>>     expensive
>>  4. raspberry pi, http://www.raspberrypi.org/, under-powered
>>  5. ASRock ION330, http://www.asrock.com/nettop/spec/ion%20330.asp
>>     <http://www.asrock.com/nettop/spec/ion 330.asp>, too big
>>
>> Does that seem fair?
>
> I would add Carambola (www.carambola.cc, ~50$) that is even less
> powered than the raspberry pi but it has wifi onboard and I think it
> can be used as a mesh router in the (battle)field
>
>
> --
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 10:53:33 -0400
> From: Jason <freedombox at lakedaemon.net>
> To: Nick Hardiman <nick at internetmachines.co.uk>
> Cc: FreedomBox discussions
> 	<freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] hardware
> Message-ID: <20120517145333.GA16338 at titan.lakedaemon.net>
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> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:42:20PM +0100, Nick Hardiman wrote:
>> I am wondering what will become the third freedombox hardware
>> architecture (after the dreambox and guruplug). These ones have
>> issues.
>
>> SolidRun CuBox, http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox, rumoured to
>> exist
>
> SolidRun is sending me one of these to try out.  It looks promising.
>
> thx,
>
> Jason.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 10:57:30 -0400
> From: Rick <graham.rick at gmail.com>
> To: Jason <freedombox at lakedaemon.net>
> Cc: FreedomBox discussions
> 	<freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] hardware
> Message-ID:
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> Nifty.
>
> Do you know how much they cost?
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jason <freedombox at lakedaemon.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:42:20PM +0100, Nick Hardiman wrote:
>> > I am wondering what will become the third freedombox hardware
>> > architecture (after the dreambox and guruplug). These ones have
>> > issues.
>>
>> > SolidRun CuBox, http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox, rumoured to
>> exist
>>
>> SolidRun is sending me one of these to try out.  It looks promising.
>>
>> thx,
>>
>> Jason.
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 16:16:23 +0100
> From: Nick Hardiman <nick at internetmachines.co.uk>
> To: FreedomBox discussions
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> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] hardware
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>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jason <freedombox at lakedaemon.net>
>> wrote:.
>>
>> > SolidRun CuBox, http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox, rumoured to
>> exist
>>
>> SolidRun is sending me one of these to try out.  It looks promising.
>
> *jealous*
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:29:02 -0700
> From: Jack Wilborn <jkwilborn at gmail.com>
> To: FreedomBox <freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org>
> Subject: [Freedombox-discuss] Next step in hardware?
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> Read the information and was wondering if anyone has thought about
> creating
> our own hardware.  If people were ok with soldering it together, maybe
> it's
> not too far out to think about a custom design to house the product?  We
> could make a design that would incorporate things like higher temps,
> stronger shielding or other problems we have found like the running
> temperature.  Just a thought, because we could customize it have what is
> needed to do what the Freedom Box was wanted without going out to some
> other hardware.  Just a thought.
>
> Jack
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:15:57 -0400
> From: Jason <freedombox at lakedaemon.net>
> To: Rick <graham.rick at gmail.com>
> Cc: FreedomBox discussions
> 	<freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] hardware
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> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:57:30AM -0400, Rick wrote:
>> Nifty.
>>
>> Do you know how much they cost?
>
> I don't have it in front of me, but it was in the same ballpark as the
> dreamplug.
>
> thx,
>
> Jason.
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 17:16:34 +0100
> From: Philip Hands <phil at hands.com>
> To: FreedomBox discussions
> 	<freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] hardware
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> On Thu, 17 May 2012 12:42:20 +0100, Nick Hardiman
> <nick at internetmachines.co.uk> wrote:
>> I am wondering what will become the third freedombox hardware
>> architecture (after the dreambox and guruplug). These ones have
>> issues.
>
> Since you're including non existent hardware in you list, how about
> this:
>
>   http://rhombus-tech.net/
>
> there is a first product in the pipeline (although I'm not sure if the
> first prototypes have made an appearance yet).
>
> The thing that makes this really rather interesting is that rhombus-tech
> would seem to have persuaded at least one manufacturer to make tablets
> for the Chinese market using this CPU card form factor internally.
>
> Assuming that comes off, the CPU cards will be mass produced at very
> reasonable prices, at which point a chassis tuned for freedombox could
> be produced, and the cheap CPU card slotted into it -- when the next
> generation of CPU card comes out, you can upgrade your freedombox, or
> more likely, you can buy a laptop using the same standard, and later
> upgrade the CPU, and hand the laptop's CPU down to the freedombox.
>
> Having said all that, you cannot buy one yet, but the project mailing
> list is very active, and there are clearly interesting contacts being
> made.
>
> Cheers, Phil.
>
> [Full Disclosure -- the mailing list is running on one of my servers, so
> I'm peripherally involved in this, but hosting the mailing list is
> pretty much the limit of my involvement]
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 19:52:32 +0100
> From: Nicholas Hardiman <nick.hardiman at gmail.com>
> To: FreedomBox discussions
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> Subject: [Freedombox-discuss] apt-get update and an SD card
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> When I run apt-get upgrade, the top command tells me wa (time spent
> waiting for SD card IO) can sit at 95%. SD cards seem to have appalling
> write speeds.
>
> That's just too bad, according to
>
> Are you using any trick to make big write jobs less awful?
>
> no swap, more tmpfs, perhaps a different file system altogether?
>
> (good notes on flash file systems at
> http://superuser.com/questions/248078/choice-of-filesystem-for-gnu-linux-on-an-sd-card)
>
> And what about apps? Do you use the memory engine with mysql? Something
> clever with /var?
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