[Freedombox-discuss] Dumb idea: Alternative to Tor that promotes good behavior

Simo s at ssimo.org
Mon Oct 28 17:30:43 UTC 2013

On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 10:02 -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Simo <s at ssimo.org>
> >To: Bill Cox <waywardgeek at gmail.com>
> >Cc: freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org
> >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 8:37 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Dumb idea: Alternative to Tor that promotes good behavior
> >On Sun, 2013-10-27 at 13:26 -0400, Bill Cox wrote:
> >> What do you guys think?
> >You are a great censor!
> Do you run a tor exit-node?

No, I can't and probably wouldn't indeed.

> The more important point to take away is that Tor's current design
> puts an enormous responsibility on the owner/operator of the
> exit-node.  I don't agree with Bill's approach either but I'd suspect
> that most people would find it very difficult to directly support
> basic principles of free speech when watching what tends to get
> requested through their own machines.

I do not disagree, yet Bill's proposal is a censor's dream.

My rule is simple, whenever someone says something about "illegal
material" replace it with "dissident material" ... in most cases you
come up with a great censorship tool, assuming it can be made to work in
the first place.

Now of Bill proposal I do not like neither the 'censorship' aspect, nor
the 'feasibility' aspect.


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