[Freedombox-discuss] Hosting emails at home

André Rodier andre at rodier.me
Sun Jun 3 21:32:18 BST 2018

Hello Joseph,

Thank you for your answer.

I wasn't expecting a direct integration of my Ansible scripts into 
FreedonBox, but an example of what should be done, and in which order, 
to have a fully compliant mail server. There is a few hurdles to 
overcome, and you would have won some time.

Now, if you think that using Ansible playbooks directly into the 
project, perhaps you know the architecture more than me. I will have a 
look to FreedomBox later.

Kind regards,

On 03/06/18 15:10, Joseph Nuthalapati wrote:
> André,
> Thanks for sharing this. I'm really excited to find a project that
> installs and configures email servers purely through Debian packages.
> This compatible with the FreedomBox way of doing things.
> FreedomBox installation scripts are plain Python scripts for now. I have
> recently used Ansible for a FreedomBox project called
> cloud-image-builder which creates EC2 images (called AMIs) of FreedomBox
> for the AWS cloud. I can see some benefits in using Ansible over writing
> our own scripts. Well, the FreedomBox project was started before Ansible
> became mainstream. I personally think that directly integrating Ansible
> playbooks into the Django project is not a bad idea though this needs
> discussion with the other team members. We might invoke Ansible
> playbooks from actions scripts in Plinth. If we take that route, these
> playbooks can be directly integrated into the FreedomBox project.
> We did implement a rudimentary Single Sign On mechanism for some of our
> applications using the Apache module called mod_auth_pubtkt. It had its
> limitations. We are now considering implementing a SAML2 based SSO.
> We recently put a lot of effort into improving our build system for
> Single Board Computers. It's called freedom-maker. It's also used by
> some other projects like Freedombone to build images for SBCs. It's
> written in Python3. Please feel free to use it and contribute improvements.
> We did have both email and SSO planned for 2018. Hope FreedomBox will
> evolve soon enough to satisfy your requirements so that you don't have
> to maintain a different project. We look forward to more collaboration
> with you.
> On Sunday 03 June 2018 01:10 PM, André Rodier wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> A few months ago, I had a look on the freedombox project, and while it
>> was promising, the main features I wanted were not implemented.
>> Basically, I needed emails and single sign-on, plus some emphasis on
>> strong security and privacy. I did not need all the software and
>> servers in the list. None of the project I have seen online where
>> providing exactly what I wanted.
>> I have been self-hosted for years, but after a migration from a
>> dedicated server online to a low power consumption mini server at
>> home, I wanted to create some scripts to do it properly. I started a
>> project on Github, you will find a link below.
>> I think I have achieved this. The way I did it is very transparent, so
>> you can see what I have done. Everything is done through Ansible
>> scripts. I may extract a few parts in different repositories.
>> I am sending this email for many valid reasons, IMHO:
>> - I see email and SSO are on your roadmap, and I reckon it is
>> something long to achieve, if done properly. What I have done might be
>> useful to you.
>> - I will focus more on open source hardware boards and fully automatic
>> installation of the whold system (OS and Software). I reckon this will
>> overlap with FreedomBox.
>> The link to the project: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox
>> I am registered in UK, as a company, and this will allow me pay some
>> people to do a few things I do not have the time or skills to do
>> myself. Anything developed will be published in GPLv3 or any
>> appropriate open source license, and submitted to Debian.
>> Have a look on the official documentation, and list of features.
>> Kind regards,
>> André Rodier.
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