[Fsf-Debian] No response?

Paul van der Vlis paul at vandervlis.nl
Mon Aug 6 12:52:54 UTC 2012

Op 06-08-12 12:58, Karl Goetz schreef:
> On Mon,  6 Aug 2012, 18:22:07 EST, Paul van der Vlis <paul at vandervlis.nl
> <mailto:paul at vandervlis.nl>> wrote:
>> Op 06-08-12 00:22, Karl Goetz schreef:
>> > On Sun,  5 Aug 2012, 23:04:20 EST, Paul van der Vlis
>> > <paul at vandervlis.nl <mailto:paul at vandervlis.nl>
> <mailto:paul at vandervlis.nl>> wrote:
>> > > I think this is all possible, except the point about the mailing
>> > > lists. In my opinion there should be "freedom of speech" on the
>> > > lists.
>> >
>> > Aiui the problem is in promoting - or being seen to promote -
>> > proprietary software. 'Everyone' knowing about a repository wont count
>> > against a distro unless it gets promoted by official channels.
>> When e.g. the DPL would be asked about the changes during an interview,
>> he should have the freedom to explain it. In my opinion that's something
>> else then promoting nonfree.
> Sorry, i think my brain dropped some context. What is 'it' in the
> paragraph above?

The new situation that non-free packages are moved from Debian to

>> When an DD answers a question about wifi in a mailinglist he should have
>> the freedom to tell about nonfree.org. I don't mean something
>> the existence of nonfree.org in documentation on the wiki. Not
> its currently against the requirements of free distos. At least for now,
> i think we should put this aside and look at other ways of collaborating.
>> promote nonfree software, but not everybody has the money to buy
>> hardware what runs with free firmware. At the moment, most cheap
>> mainboards (95%?) are using a Realtek network chip what
> that claim seems unsubstantiated to me.

It's my experience, and I sell hardware with free software.

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.

Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen

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