[Fsf-Debian] [Fsf-collab] Random thoughts...

[Paul Tagliamonte]

On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 11:17:11AM -0700, Jason Self wrote:
> Paul Tagliamonte said:
> 
> > We can provide unofficial support for such things *outside* the project
> > (as it currently is), but draw the line more clearly.
> 
> Can you please clarify that? When I go to debian.org I find information that

Please read up on our social contract[1] that you linked to. It's
actually quite clear about it:

| The packages in these areas are not part of the Debian system

> explicitly says Debian officially supports nonfree things [1]. I can also find
> information and instructions -- again on debian.org -- about how to install and
> use these nonfree things, which seems to confirm that support. Furthermore I can
> even communicate with the official Debian staff about those things, and even
> file bugs against them to have things fixed in it.
> 
> I read the words but I'm not clear how this goes to "provide unofficial support
> for such things *outside* the project (as it currently is)."
> 
> I take unofficial support outside the project to be something similar to how
> Fedora does it: There are non-free things available but those repositories are
> on a different website, run and managed by third parties, and the official
> Fedora website doesn't steer people to them to or try to communicate that these
> are officially supported in any way.
> 
> I wonder: If Debian were to increase the level of separation in this way would
> it be enough to satisfy everyone?
> 
> Maybe it could even be as simple as putting non-free and contrib (along with
> supporting documentation about non-free things) on a different virtual host?
> 
> Considering that Debian is in freeze for Wheezy (I think) this might be
> something to consider for Wheezy+1?
> 
> Keep in mind that a good compromise leaves no one happy.

this extremist attitude is not welcome on a mailing list designed to
foster collaboration. Please refrain from such blatant trolling here.

> 
> [1] http://www.debian.org/social_contract

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[1]: http://www.debian.org/social_contract

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