[Neurodebian-users] NeuroFedora packaging priorities

[Yaroslav Halchenko]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2018, Morgan Hough wrote:

> Hey Yarik,

> Good to hear from you too. If we are only going to meet in person every
> 15-20 years I think we need to wear those badges like high school reunions
> with pictures of our younger, more idealistic selves:) 

what a brilliant idea!  Good that when we were young(er) we at least
took some photos of ourselves e.g.
http://neuro.debian.net/blog/2011/2011-07-10_booth_hbm2011.html

> To your points. Well if you don’t mind me sometimes mailing the list about
> upstream issues, 

well, the question would be either it would make sense mail this list
with upstream issues ;-) most likely you would just want to contact
upstream via their preferred medium (github, list, bts).

> I have a couple people working on neurodebian packages too
> so it will be mostly relevant. For dsiStudio for instance, I am wondering
> what we should do about the data that he doesn’t have bundled in his main
> source project. 

I guess it depends on how big is the data and how intermingled it with
the sources... if you could extract it into an independent "dataset",
would be great.  

> It will be mostly things like that. I am still very
> interested in the current status of a independent FreeSurfer build BTW.

build -- I keep wanting to get back to it but other tasks keep calling me away.
In FreeSurfer they "cheated" a bit and started to use glorious git-annex
(I wonder who put them up to that ?;-))) to manage data files without
doing any major surgery.  See more at 
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/DevelopersGuide_git

> I will definitely make datalad a priority. I think Igor will approve:) My
> friend Simon has been running an IPFS node BTW. 

oh sweet... yet another thing I want to setup/play with some time...
Satra Ghosh from MIT also has incentive to run ipfs node so we could
cache each other.. So what does he provide from that IPFS node?

> I will checkout popcon for
> sure. I think mricron, mrtrix3, AFNI, MNI tools and ANTs cover a lot of
> ground in terms of broad coverage with GPL/BSD tools. Interesting but not
> surprising on the top results. Curious how much you de-emphasize Python
> tools (NiPy projects), not denying their awesome merits, but just because
> everyone pushes Anaconda and/or pip installable generic packaging.

well -- I am just trying not to preach for the sake of preaching...
Especially before singularity came about, there were no other sensible
way to "deploy neurodebian" with all awesome python things on HPC
running  CentOS.  So, ppl would use conda.  Also if you just want a more
rapidly moving  (and thus more frequently breaking) python ecosystem use
pip, want some more stability and reliability -- conda, ... but nothing
would compare if you want stability and reliability and "All software
made equal" - use Debian ;-) 

> Love to hear more about your FOSDEM plans. Happy to volunteer to help. I
> think there are some HBP software/standards projects they would like to
> also see more outside adoption too. I know at MozFest there are
> non-scientists interested and motivated to help in ways they can with
> projects. That’s certainly what I am trying to learn from Mozilla Fellows.
> If we can find the right engagement, I think there are people out there
> interested. Separately from NeuroFedora, I am trying to do more with
> make/hackaday hardware crowd and find projects that solve their problems
> like LSL that might get them more engaged. Still digging.

the closest to "hardware hacking" recently for me was MRI phantom from
Duplo Legos, following Vladimir Fonov's recipes ;-)

> Talk more soon. Hope to see you again soon (maybe January in Florida this
> time?)

are you going to Nypipe 2.0 Workshop?

-- 
Yaroslav O. Halchenko
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