[Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild

[Arnaud Quette]

just to complete a bit Manuel's answer

2009/8/3 Manuel Wolfshant

> Antoine Gatineau wrote:
>
>> Ok,
>>  Now I am rebuilding an el4 rpm based on el5 src.rpm.
>>  I will remove the --with-hal option in the configure part. In order a
>> full featured rpm, I'm trying to keep every option unless hal.
>> But I am having problems with dependencies. libX11-devel,
>>
> xorg-x11-devel
>
>  libXpm-devel,
>>
> still xorg-x11-devel, if I am not mistaken
>
>  dbus-glib-devel
>>
> dbus-devel
>

you can drop this one since it's for the nut-hal package
(note that you might need to remove the nut-hal package definitions
throughout the .spec...)


>  and powerman-devel
>>
> not available, afaik
> IIRC, I had to compile it for RHEL-5, and in turn it required some other
> packages (a newer curl, for instance)
> I suggest to drop its usage
>

yup, this part is for the powerman (external PDU) support.
just in case you want it: http://sourceforge.net/projects/powerman/files/

btw, are you working with Patrick Agrain?

Arnaud
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Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
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>
>  do not exist in RHEL 4... These are for RHEL5.
>>  Does anyone know the equivalent dependencies for RHEL4?
>> Another possibility is to disable the option that requires thoses
>> dependencies. I didn't find a document explaining that so could you help.
>> By disabling the troublemaker options, I can build a package for my
>> particuliar configuration. Of course it will not help others...
>>  I put the RHEL5 spec file in attachement also.
>>  Merci,
>> Antoine
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *De :* Arnaud Quette [mailto:aquette.dev at gmail.com]
>> *Envoyé :* lundi 3 août 2009 11:09
>> *À :* Antoine Gatineau
>> *Cc :* Charles Lepple; nut-upsuser
>> *Objet :* Re: [Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild
>>
>> salut Antoine
>>
>> 2009/8/3 Antoine Gatineau <antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com <mailto:
>> antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com>>
>>
>>
>>    Thanks for the info.
>>        I use the first approach.
>>    So, if I understood well, the nut-hal support (ie, the --with-hal)
>>    is used only for the 2nd approach. Udev rules are dealt when using
>>    --with-usb.
>>    Is that correct?
>>
>>
>> mostly! the udev rules are used in both cases...
>>
>>    If so, I might be able to rebuild the nut-2.4.1 pachage for RHEL4.
>>    For packaging help (I think I might need some for the next stage
>>    ;-) ) do I continue this thread or use the nut-packaging list (or
>>    both).
>>
>>
>> no, continue using the present thread.
>> nut-packaging is not really active, and I've created it originally as a
>> placeholder for packagers discussions (related to the NUT Packaging Standard
>> - NPS - topic)
>>
>> cheers,
>> Arnaud
>> --
>> Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
>> Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
>> Debian Developer - http://www.debian.org
>> Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/
>>
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>    *De :* Arnaud Quette [mailto:aquette.dev at gmail.com
>>    <mailto:aquette.dev at gmail.com>]
>>    *Envoyé :* vendredi 31 juillet 2009 21:41
>>    *À :* Antoine Gatineau
>>    *Cc :* Charles Lepple; nut-upsuser
>>
>>    *Objet :* Re: [Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild
>>
>>    salut Antoine,
>>
>>    2009/7/31 Antoine Gatineau <antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com
>>    <mailto:antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com>>
>>
>>
>>        I might ask a stupid question but isn't hal used to manage the
>>        UPS device
>>        and connection through udev rules?
>>        I though that hal was mostly usefull with usb...
>>
>>        In the nut-hal document, it is said that HAL "allows NUT
>>        drivers to feed the
>>        HAL system, which will itself feeds
>>        applications such as the Gnome Power Manager"
>>        Does that mean hal is not used for managing the battery itself
>>        but sees the
>>        nut driver as a "pseudo real  battery"? In this case, indeed,
>>        I do not need
>>        it.
>>        I use upsmon for power management.
>>
>>
>>    not at all. there are 2 approaches:
>>    - the standard one, where you have a driver (usbhid-ups), upsd and
>>    upsmon.
>>    udev only applies the device privileges rules.
>>    - the Integrated Power Management approach, where NUT USB driver
>>    can feed data to HAL (instead of upsd), replacing the basic
>>    USB/HID support in HAL.
>>    Note that HAL is being superseded by DeviceKit and DeviceKit-power.
>>    This approach will probably be abandonned...
>>
>>
>>        -----Message d'origine-----
>>        De : Charles Lepple [mailto:clepple at gmail.com
>>        <mailto:clepple at gmail.com>]
>>        Envoyé : vendredi 31 juillet 2009 15:08
>>        À : Antoine Gatineau
>>        Cc : 'nut-upsuser'
>>        Objet : Re: [Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild
>>
>>        On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:03 AM, Antoine Gatineau wrote:
>>
>>        > Indeed, nut depends on some packages not the distribution
>>        itself.
>>        > You are surely right.
>>        >
>>        > Anyway, here are the links :
>>        > RHEL 4 : ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/EPEL/4ES/SRPMS/
>>        > nut-2.2.0-4.el4.src.rpm
>>        > RHEL 5 : nut-2.4.1 found only on this one
>>        > http://wolfy.fedorapeople.org/nut/SRPM/
>>
>>
>>    use that one.
>>    install it and edit the spec.
>>    modifying --with-all by --with-usb should be sufficient.
>>
>>    cheers,
>>    Arnaud
>>    --    Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
>>    Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader -
>>    http://www.networkupstools.org/
>>    Debian Developer - http://www.debian.org
>>    Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/
>>
>>
>
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