[Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild

Mon Aug 3 16:10:41 UTC 2009

Looking at the configure output, I though nut-cgi was using X11 and glib
stuff. I will check.

It looks good other wise. I had to disable hal, powerman and neonxml feature
to get it wotk.

I still got some with installed but unpackaged file that need some
modification in the spec file. I will update soon.

Patrick doesn't work anymore on this project but yes indeed we work in the
same dept. He contributed a bit to nut project some time ago if I remember
well. So I am continuing part of is job now.

Antoine

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De : Arnaud Quette [mailto:aquette.dev at gmail.com] 
Envoyé : lundi 3 août 2009 16:16
À : Antoine Gatineau
Cc : nut-upsuser
Objet : Re: [Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild

just to complete a bit Manuel's answer

2009/8/3 Manuel Wolfshant

Antoine Gatineau wrote:

Ok,
 Now I am rebuilding an el4 rpm based on el5 src.rpm.
 I will remove the --with-hal option in the configure part. In order a full
featured rpm, I'm trying to keep every option unless hal.
But I am having problems with dependencies. libX11-devel,

xorg-x11-devel

libXpm-devel,

still xorg-x11-devel, if I am not mistaken

dbus-glib-devel

dbus-devel

you can drop this one since it's for the nut-hal package
(note that you might need to remove the nut-hal package definitions
throughout the .spec...) 

and powerman-devel

not available, afaik
IIRC, I had to compile it for RHEL-5, and in turn it required some other
packages (a newer curl, for instance)
I suggest to drop its usage

yup, this part is for the powerman (external PDU) support.
just in case you want it: http://sourceforge.net/projects/powerman/files/

btw, are you working with Patrick Agrain?

Arnaud
-- 
Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://www.debian.org
Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/

do not exist in RHEL 4... These are for RHEL5.
 Does anyone know the equivalent dependencies for RHEL4?
Another possibility is to disable the option that requires thoses
dependencies. I didn't find a document explaining that so could you help.
By disabling the troublemaker options, I can build a package for my
particuliar configuration. Of course it will not help others...
 I put the RHEL5 spec file in attachement also.
 Merci,
Antoine

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*De :* Arnaud Quette [mailto:aquette.dev at gmail.com]
*Envoyé :* lundi 3 août 2009 11:09
*À :* Antoine Gatineau
*Cc :* Charles Lepple; nut-upsuser
*Objet :* Re: [Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild

salut Antoine

2009/8/3 Antoine Gatineau <antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com
<mailto:antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com>> 

   Thanks for the info.
       I use the first approach.
   So, if I understood well, the nut-hal support (ie, the --with-hal)
   is used only for the 2nd approach. Udev rules are dealt when using
   --with-usb.
   Is that correct?

mostly! the udev rules are used in both cases...

   If so, I might be able to rebuild the nut-2.4.1 pachage for RHEL4.
   For packaging help (I think I might need some for the next stage
   ;-) ) do I continue this thread or use the nut-packaging list (or
   both).

no, continue using the present thread.
nut-packaging is not really active, and I've created it originally as a
placeholder for packagers discussions (related to the NUT Packaging Standard
- NPS - topic)

cheers,
Arnaud
-- 
Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://www.debian.org
Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/

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   *De :* Arnaud Quette [mailto:aquette.dev at gmail.com
   <mailto:aquette.dev at gmail.com>]
   *Envoyé :* vendredi 31 juillet 2009 21:41
   *À :* Antoine Gatineau
   *Cc :* Charles Lepple; nut-upsuser

   *Objet :* Re: [Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild

   salut Antoine,

   2009/7/31 Antoine Gatineau <antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com

   <mailto:antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com>> 

       I might ask a stupid question but isn't hal used to manage the
       UPS device
       and connection through udev rules?
       I though that hal was mostly usefull with usb...

       In the nut-hal document, it is said that HAL "allows NUT
       drivers to feed the
       HAL system, which will itself feeds
       applications such as the Gnome Power Manager"
       Does that mean hal is not used for managing the battery itself
       but sees the
       nut driver as a "pseudo real  battery"? In this case, indeed,
       I do not need
       it.
       I use upsmon for power management.

   not at all. there are 2 approaches:
   - the standard one, where you have a driver (usbhid-ups), upsd and
   upsmon.
   udev only applies the device privileges rules.
   - the Integrated Power Management approach, where NUT USB driver
   can feed data to HAL (instead of upsd), replacing the basic
   USB/HID support in HAL.
   Note that HAL is being superseded by DeviceKit and DeviceKit-power.
   This approach will probably be abandonned...

       -----Message d'origine-----
       De : Charles Lepple [mailto:clepple at gmail.com
       <mailto:clepple at gmail.com>]
       Envoyé : vendredi 31 juillet 2009 15:08
       À : Antoine Gatineau
       Cc : 'nut-upsuser'
       Objet : Re: [Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild

       On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:03 AM, Antoine Gatineau wrote:

       > Indeed, nut depends on some packages not the distribution
       itself.
       > You are surely right.
       >
       > Anyway, here are the links :
       > RHEL 4 : ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/EPEL/4ES/SRPMS/
       > nut-2.2.0-4.el4.src.rpm
       > RHEL 5 : nut-2.4.1 found only on this one
       > http://wolfy.fedorapeople.org/nut/SRPM/

   use that one.
   install it and edit the spec.
   modifying --with-all by --with-usb should be sufficient.

   cheers,
   Arnaud
   --    Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
   Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader -
   http://www.networkupstools.org/
   Debian Developer - http://www.debian.org
   Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/

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