[Nut-upsuser] ID Progress Report

gene heskett gheskett at shentel.net
Tue May 10 14:59:33 BST 2022

On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 03:13:34 EDT Roger Price wrote:
> The discussions with IANA concluded that the following sentence should
> be added to chapter 7 IANA Considerations:
>    This document will be added to the registration's reference field.
> This is good for NUT since it makes official and permanent the
> relationship between port 3493/TCP (nut) and the NUT protocol.
> The ID is now technically and politically complete, and has entered the
> administrative stage.  The current discussions are whether the IETF
> telechat should be May 12 or June 2. This telechat would ideally
> produce a proposal for what to do with the ID. (Perhaps an approval
> :-) )
> After that there will be an administrative editing session (no
> technical change).
> I have no date for the final RFC.
> A personal comment: I am surprised by the way the IETF have handled our
> text. We are being treated as if we were a formal standards group
> which alone has the authority to produce a Standards Track document,
> despite being only what the IETF call "a personal contribution".
> Roger

You may not appreciate that status Roger, but the fact remains that for 
the last 20 some years NUT has been the defacto standard against all the 
other wannabe's have competed with and lost. I don't think it's from lack 
of trying, but lack of understanding the problem. NUT has given us the 
tools to do what we need. Nearly all the others are only interested in a 
captive market for replacement LA batteries. And they sure as hell won't 
pay for the engineering needed to properly charge a gel-cell. So most of 
them burn up the battery in 2 years or less that when properly cared for 
it could last 10+ years.

I know some of the diffs between liquid acid and gel-cells, just enough 
to appreciate that yes there is a difference. My experience has been with 
large car batteries. I had to replace the batteries that started a 335 
cumalong 150kw standby at a uhf tv station which was just barely starting 
it when I walked in the door, and 4 months later couldn't do it any more.  
So I cut a PO and drove into town and got two fresh 220 ah 12 volters. 
Cheap 3 year ones. They slammed the bendix HARD, and the first cylinder 
to hit tdc fired, and 1 second later the lights were on again.

Batteries like that gas when overcharged, so I kept reducing the trickle 
until I was only seeing about a bubble of gas maybe once a minute. 7 
years later I was bored and went down the road. Those 2 batteries were 
then 6.5 years old and were still turning that cumalong wrong side out 
starting it just like they did when new. And if nobody mucks with it 
since, they could possibly be doing it yet today, 42 years later. Side 
comment, that 150kw was about a third of what that transmitter needed for 
full song. Klystrons are not very efficient amplifiers. 28% at best tune.

NUT IMO has set the standard Roger. So put on your proud hat. And be 
justifiably proud.

Take care and stay well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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