[Nut-upsuser] [Nut-upsdev] How verbose should NUT be by default?

Roger Price roger at rogerprice.org
Mon Jan 9 21:37:57 GMT 2023

On Mon, 9 Jan 2023, Greg Troxel wrote:

> Specifically, I find all of this to be noise:
> upsmon startup:
>  Network UPS Tools upsmon
> again, all knowable statically from config.
> upsd:
>  Network UPS Tools upsd
>  listening on port 3493
>  listening on ::1 port 3493
>  Connected to UPS [foo]: bestfortress-foo
>  Found 1 UPS defined in ups.conf
> again, all what was configured.

> And a question from me:
>  Have you ever had a situation where the above verbose info, printed on
>  stdout/stderr, was useful in diagnosing a previous problematic
>  shutdown (a real one, not a testing one)?  If so please describe.

1. There is a difference between once-only verbiage and once every hour 
verbiage.  Its the every-hour stuff that should not appear by default.

2. The once-only lines confirm that the configuration is correctly set up.

3. Its not just the problematic shutdowns that need help, but also the broken 

Cars are required to have indicators that left/right turn signals are operating. 
One can argue that they are "noise" since the driver is supposed to know that 
he/she is turning left/right.  But a confirmation is deemed essential for safe 
driving.  It seems to me that logging « Network UPS Tools upsd listening 
on port 3493 listening on ::1 port 3493 » is also essential for safe 
shutdown management.


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