[Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#635694: alsa-base: alsa bug 0005418: snd-hda-intel: alsa force-reload required to avoid Dummy output

r.ductor at gmail.com r.ductor at gmail.com
Sat Jul 30 09:36:43 UTC 2011


> pulseaudio is only a recommend for speech-dispatcher and
> gnome-media. It is not needed stringently. so you can do:
> 
> # apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio.
> 
> Why do you want the speech-dispatcher and gnome-media?

Dear Elimar, thanks for your help.

Speech-dispatcher and gnome-media have been automatically installed, do not know them.
(As many people I have the install recommends option on.)

Why I have pulseaudio and speech dispatcher? Here's the answer: 

speech-dispatcher recommends pulseaudio.
(As many people I have the install recommends option on.)
jovie depends on speech-dispatcher. Then, many k stuff depends on jovie.

# apt-rdepends -r --state-follow=Installed --state-show=Installed speech-dispatcher
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
speech-dispatcher
  Reverse Depends: jovie (4:4.6.5-1)
jovie
  Reverse Depends: kdeaccessibility (>= 4:4.6.5-1)
  Reverse Depends: kmouth (4:4.6.5-1)
  Reverse Depends: kttsd (4:4.6.5-1)
kdeaccessibility
kmouth
  Reverse Depends: kdeaccessibility (>= 4:4.6.5-1)
kttsd

Apparently gnome-media has been automatically installed by the distribution, not by a dependency: 

# apt-rdepends -r --state-follow=Installed --state-show=Installed --follow=Depends,PreDepends,Recommends gnome-media
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
gnome-media
# apt-rdepends -r --state-follow=Installed --state-show=Installed gnome-media
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
gnome-media

Anyway gnome-media only suggests pulseaudio, so it  is fine to have it.

As a trial I've removed pulseaudio and I have my audio is  back (THANKS) :)

As a side note: when I restarted the computer Kde asked me about removing an HDA intel device, in the doubt I said NO (see png), hope that was OK. Kmix now shows "Master" instead of " Internal Audio Analog Stereo".

All in all, apart an incompatibility bug among pulseaudioand alsa,  there is still a global debian problem: if one removes pulseaudio, it will be back next upgrade because it is recommended by speech-dispatcher. Wouldn't be better to ask the developers of  speech-dispatcher to change "recommends pulseaudio" to "suggests" due to the present incompatibility with alsa? Shall I send a wish or you know them?

If the situation stays as it is, I guess I'll have to filter out pulseaudio in /etc/apt/preferences, or to drop the install recommends option (that is a default of apt, I guess).

Ric

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