[Bug 87353] Re: client outdated

Steffen Moeller moeller at inb.uni-luebeck.de
Wed May 9 08:21:25 UTC 2007

Hi Torsten,

I am in a bad mood this morning and very much appreciate your email which is 
the perfect basis for a good rant which makes one feel so much better.

On Tuesday 08 May 2007 18:05:38 T. Appelhagen wrote:
> By now I *really* wonder what this "long term support" means...
Ha, look it up in Wikipedia.

> I decided to use dapper because it should last for the lifetime of the
> server - five years seemed to be enough.
> And what's up now?
> - BOINC is outdated and it's just a matter of time until the projects will
> require a newer version, so I can't use it any more.
You cannot use it any more because projects require a newer version something 
in future? You mean - there will be a time that some future projects will 
request some future version - right?

> - MLDonkey is 
> lightyears behind, rendering it unusable (I don't know if at least the
> installer-bug is fixed by now) - Even worse, ClamAV (which always wasn't
> very up-to-date!) is still on 0.88.4 while 0.90.2 is current. Backport
> rejected, see here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clamav/+bug/53856 A mail server
> without actual virus scanner? Hah!
A problem with essential tools like virus scanners are indeed not tolerable. 
You need to distinguish between the interface to some data  (the tool with a 
version) and the viral signatures (regularly updated all the time). These 
should not be incompatible, of course. If they are then stop using Dapper.

> It's not even a year since the installation and I shall dist-upgrade???
> Just like Windows, "if something is strange, FORMAT C: and reinstall"?
> Sorry, but this is ridiculous!
The "apt-get  dist-upgrade" updates all packages you have installed to the 
latest version of the distribution you have decided for.  There is little to 
say against doing such on a daily basis or even more often.

While I would be more careful with my wording, I perceive the issues similarly 
and hence use Debian unstable on my desktop which basically means continous 
updates. The problem with a release is that it is released. 



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