[Pkg-e-devel] Bug#532214: [pkg-fso-maint] Bug#532214: libefreet-svn-01: does not show applications in Utility category

[Luca Capello]

Hi Albin!

On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:11:17 +0200, Albin Tonnerre wrote:
> reassign 532214 e17-data 0.16.999.060-1
> thanks
>
>> Both efreet and the E17 XDG menu [1] are not *fully* conform to the
>> freedesktop.org Desktop Menu Specification v1.0 since they do not
>> support all the Main Categories [2].
>> 
>> [1] /etc/xdg/menus/enlightenment-applications.menu
>> [2] http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html#category-registry
>
> Then you're not talking about efreet itself, but about the menu file provided as
> part of the e17-data package. if you find something not conforming to the specs
> in efreet, please feel free to open a separate bugreport.

Sorry, I think you missunderstood me because I was not clear: which
softare is responsible to read /u/s/applications/*.desktop files on the
fly, i.e. when they are changed?  On Illume these files are shown on the
"desktop" and the bug is in this software.

FYI, I performed my tests on Illume with one single .desktop file per
Main Category in the specs above.

I talked about the E17 menu because it refers to a specific version of
the freedesktop.org Desktop Menu Specification, while there is nothing
in the efreet documentation.

>> - Audio and Video alone are not supported, while they are if the
>>   .desktop file contains the AudioVideo category as well (this is
>>   required by the specs, thus this is not really a bug, but still).
>> 
>> - For the Settings category, the specs specify that "entries may appear
>>   in a separate menu or as part of a 'Control Center'".
>> 
>>   FWIW, from a quick analysis on a default Debian lenny, I found that
>>   most of the application in the Settings category specify the System
>>   category as well, like synaptic or update-manager.
>> 
>
> Sorry, I don't get your point.

On both problems?

The first one: it is true that applications in the Audio and Video
categories should be listed in the AudioVideo one as well, but what if
you have a separate Audio submenu?  This will be empty, with all Audio
*only* applications in the AudioVideo submenu.

The second one: I failed to find an application only belonging to the
Settings category, thus I think all the applications in this category
specify the System category as well, thus they are shown in the System
submenu.

While both problems are sort of "solved", still the specs are clear and
efreet (or whatever software is responsibe for that) does not conform to
the specs.

>> - Education and Utility are not supported at all, thus applications like
>>   gedit or matchbox-keyboard are not shown on the Illume desktop
>> 
>
> For the record, this menu is only provided as a fallback menu in case the user
> doesn't have any, and was never made to be spec-compliant or anything. Now that
> e17 has a decent way to select a default menu via the wizard module, I think
> I'll just drop it and make e17 depend on menu-xdg. Suggestions ?

FWIW, I have never tried that menu, so I cannot comment on it.

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca
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