[pymvpa] zscoremapper/zscore

Kimberly Zhou kyqzhou at gmail.com
Fri Sep 2 19:00:41 UTC 2011


Thanks again Yarik, for helping with RFE!
While working on this again, I ran the script for RFE and uncommented line
62:

zscore(ds, chunks_attr=None)

using chunks_attr=None as you suggested since I only have two samples per
chunk. However, I got much lower accuracies which is odd...
SMLR: 35.42% ACC
SVM: 50% ACC
RFE (overfit): 43.75% ACC
RFE (overfit less?): 43.75% ACC
RFE (half/splits+rank order): 50% ACC

In looking at the documentation for zscoremapper, I wonder if it's possible
for zscoremapper to zscore voxel-wise or per target per chunk/run? It seems
like it only zscores sample/target wise.

I appreciate your help!

Thank you,

Kimberly Zhou


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> From: Yaroslav Halchenko <debian at onerussian.com>
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> just to catch up on things:
>
>  cons: indeed recipe was not correctly adopted from 0.4.x
>  pros: no changes needed in PyMVPA itself
>
> see attached a complete script with few ways for RFE, depending on what you
> take for the sensitivity and for the error to decide on when to stop.  I
> was
> going also implement a "biased" version, close to the original RFE version
> from
> Guyon, where stopping point is chosen by having a sneak view and the
> cross-validation held-out set, which would have negative consequences on
> significance testing, which is a corner-stone of machine-learning in
> neuroimaging... so I haven't done that -- only truly unbiased, although
> possibly slightly overfitting versions available ;-)
>
> we are yet to adjust the webpage describing the RFE in 0.6.x
>
> on the dataset you have provided, here is what I got with the script (d'oh
> --
> forgotten about zscoring being commented out):
>
> SMLR: 58.33% ACC
> SVM: 64.58% ACC
> RFE (overfit): 66.67% ACC
> RFE (overfit less?): 66.67% ACC
> RFE (half/splits+rank order): 64.58% ACC
>
> altogether -- results are comparable with SMLR and I bet with a simple
> nested
> cross-validation to choose lm parameter for SMLR you might get better
> results for lower computing cost
>
>
> On Wed, 06 Jul 2011, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>
> > neh -- that was a good call from me but still not it -- just read it
> > nevertheless ;)
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