Bug#441040: [INTL:ta] debconf PO translations for the package hex-a-hop

[Jens Seidel]

On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 03:08:36PM +0530, Tirumurti Vasudevan wrote:
> On 9/7/07, Jens Seidel <jensseidel at users.sf.net> wrote:
> > > of course it is not rendered correctly. the complex scripts need some
> > extra
> > > settings to show right. the environment needs to be set. but dont worry,
> > it
> >
> > What kind of settings? Probably I have to install an optimized font,
> > other issues?
> 
> pango setting is the issue for tamil fonts to be rendered right.

OK, but this doesn't help me a lot :-)

Could you first describe what currently is wrong? Maybe you can send a
small screenshot of a properly displayed Tamil string from the PO file?

Do you know how I have to change the pango settings?

It could be
 a) a problem with my system configuration. This is not critical as
    it will work properly for Tamil users who have proper configs.
 b) a problem accessing Pango in the game itself. There are e.g.
    functions to specify bidi actions for scripts writing from right to
    left. Do I need to call such functions? I don't know.
 c) a Pango bug

But you're probably right, I hope it's reason a).
I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/pango/+bug/107067
I think the many dots I see in my screenshots are wrong, right?
 
> > This means: There are 2 plural forms, the first one is used for %d==1
> > the other for all other numbers.
> 
> what you say is correct.

Ah, OK.

> i inserted the line manually but it disappeared on opening with kababel!
> perhaps i am not allowed to change the header.

Probably you have to change this in the kbabel settings dialog. I don't
know it for sure, I'm a vim user :-)
 
> > Can you please mention such a font so that I can use it for testing?
> 
> what distroe are you using?

Debian. Currently stable but I hope I can resurrect my Unstable box
soon (locked disk), otherwise I could install it new. Not a big task ...

> i use ubuntu and have rohit tamil as default font

OK, will try it.
 
> > PS: I forwarded your mails to 441040 at bugs.debian.org so that they will
> > be archived. I hope this is OK.
> 
> perfect.
> i have included a copy of this mail too to that address

That's good.
 
> You should probably also translate
> > msgid "SEE ALSO"
> >
> > Same for AUTHOR, DESCRIPTION, NAME, ... right?
> 
> i dont know the tech reasons but when i started learning the ruls for
> translation i was told not to translate any string that appears in all caps
> so i left them out.
> if it is ok i can always translate them for you.

Most language teams translate such headers in man pages, see e.g.
http://www.infodrom.org/projects/manpages-de/richtlinien-2.html#s2.1
But please note that only a few European languages were supported by
man during the last decades. I did not even try testing your Tamil man
page, I know for sure it will not work now. But Colin works on it and
the next version will contain proper UTF-8 support.

Probably it's better to discuss this in your language team as it should be
consistently translated in all man pages -- and there are many hundreds.
I doubt that there exist currently many translations to Tamil.

So there is no strict reason to translate it for now if you're unsure.

Thanks for your feedback. I hope you will also test the game (at least
once it reaches Ubuntu), it makes a lot of fun but is nearly too hard
for me.

Jens