I also cannot replicate this. Can you run SJ in a terminal to see if there are any messages, and run SJ inside gdb to get a stack trace? Ross -- Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF