[Pkg-gridengine-devel] SGE on Debian Unstable

[Timothy Karl]

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Hi Dave,

>> My name is Timothy Karl and I work with Laszlo Kajan on a daily
>> basis here. We are both on the gridengine Debian team.
> 
> I didn't know there was such a team.

Laszlo is a Debian developer and associated with gridengine
(https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-gridengine/). I work with
Laszlo here at the TUM. We are very interested in keeping SGE
supported in Debian, since we use it in our department constantly.

The Debianization for gridengine is maintained by this team, in the
VCS indicated at [1]. Since you have already put a lot of effort into
bringing your latest sge into Debian, it seems like a good idea for
you to join the team, so that we can collaboratively work on the
Debianization in the Alioth VCS (all team members have write access).
It would be great if you could create an alioth account. Then one of
the team admins (@Michael) can add you to the team, so that you have
write access.

However your upstream should not ship a debian directory (as it does
now), because this causes problems with merging new upstreams with the
debian directory in the alioth VCS (containing the team's
Debianization). As long as there is a debian directory in your
upstream, we have to repackage it deleting that directory for Debian
(although there are other ways to do this, other team members help me
out here).

[1] git://git.debian.org/git/users/mhy/gridengine-debian.git

> 
>> Laszlo Kajan and I have finally managed to sit down together and
>> start bringing your SGE source to a working Debian package.
> 
> Thanks.  I'm not sure I knew what I was doing and there are a
> number of potential issues I didn't know how to address.

We will work through all of that, sending you patches and stuff as we
go on. This would be easier if we could share the alioth repo for the
Debianization: our patches will be committed there.

>> We have successfully built the Debian packages using your source 
>> snapshot (sge-20121118.tar.gz) and gridengine Debian-ization repo
>> at http://arc.liv.ac.uk/repos/{git,hg}/gridengine.debian.
> 
> Do you know if it will build on all the Debian architectures?  (If
> not it should be simple to fix.)

No. But we will know once we commit it into unstable or experimental:
the build daemon will then attempt the build, and we can look at the
result of that, something like [2].

[2] https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=gridengine&suite=sid

>> At this point, we stumbled over one issue only. There was a
>> missing build dependency - libhwloc-dev.
> 
> Oops, thanks!  I must have forgotten to add that after testing on 
> systems initially without a new enough hwloc.
> 
> I should make a list of the things I think need checking or
> thinking about, if you could look at it.

Ideally we would fix this in the repo on alioth, so you would not need
to keep a list and commit it to your
<http://arc.liv.ac.uk/repos/git/gridengine.debian>.

>> Perhaps it would be a good idea to change the name from
>> gridengine to sge. Could you update the Debian-ization with the
>> new name please?
> 
> I can, but why?  I don't feel strongly about the name, but I don't
> see the need to change it, as it's the same system, and I'd have
> thought it would just cause confusion and potential problems to
> change it.

gridengine it is, then, we agree with you that changing the name is
not a good idea.

>> We will next test the built packages on our VM running 
>> Debian-unstable, hopefully sometime this week. We'll let you know
>> what turns up.
> 
> I did that (but rather trivially, and a while ago), but great if
> you can do more.  One bug that may show up specifically on unstable
> (or testing?) is <https://arc.liv.ac.uk/trac/SGE/ticket/1437>.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Timothy Karl
HPC Systems Manager & Administrator
Lehrstuhl für Bioinformatik - I12
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