[Pkg-javascript-devel] CTTE decision on nodejs (bug #862051)

[Jérémy Lal]

2017-08-16 14:30 GMT+02:00 Ross Gammon <javascript at the-gammons.net>:

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> On 16/08/17 10:22, Jérémy Lal wrote:
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> 2017-08-16 9:08 GMT+02:00 Ross Gammon <javascript at the-gammons.net>:
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>> On 08/01/2017 09:14 AM, Jérémy Lal wrote:
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>> 2017-08-01 7:59 GMT+02:00 Ross Gammon <javascript at the-gammons.net>:
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>>> On 07/31/2017 08:05 PM, Jérémy Lal wrote:
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>>> Hi team,
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>>> 2017-07-31 19:17 GMT+02:00 Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen at debian.org>:
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>>>> The technical committee was asked in bug #862051 to revisit the
>>>> decision in
>>>> bug #614907 (conflict between the ax25-node package and the nodejs
>>>> package).
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>>>> === Resolution ===
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>>>> The Technical Committee recognises that circumstances change in ways
>>>> that make previous resolutions no longer appropriate.  In 2012, it was
>>>> resolved that the nodejs package should not provide /usr/bin/node due to
>>>> the historical conflict with the ax25-node package.  Node.js is still
>>>> quite popular and the ax25-node package is no longer in stable, testing
>>>> or unstable so the requirement for nodejs to not provide /usr/bin/node
>>>> no longer applies.
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>>>> The Committee therefore resolves that:
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>>>> 1. The CTTE decision from 2012-07-12 in bug #614907 is repealed.
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>>>> This means Debian's normal policies and practices take over and the
>>>> nodejs package is free to provide /usr/bin/node.  The migration should
>>>> be managed according to Debian's usual backwards-compatibility
>>>> arrangements.
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>>>> === End Resolution ===
>>>>
>>>> Please see http://bugs.debian.org/862051 for discussion of this bug.
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>>> Next time i'll upload nodejs, it will be with /usr/bin/node and
>>> /usr/bin/nodejs.
>>> After that, please stop patching modules shebangs.
>>> I suspect it is a bad idea to keep /usr/bin/nodejs forever, so hopefully
>>> it will
>>> be possible to remove it before buster.
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>>> Regards,
>>> Jérémy.
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>>> Once that is done, I will tweak https://wiki.debian.org/Javasc
>>> ript/Nodejs/Manual and https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs for
>>> new team members if you like.
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>>> Should we eventually add something to the buster release notes to warn
>>> those users/developers that might have been unaware of nodejs-legacy, and
>>> developed their own stuff using /usr/bin/nodejs? Or is that likely to be a
>>> rare situation?
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>> I suppose it's important enough to, yes.
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>> Jérémy
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> What's "done" exactly ? The wiki changes ?
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> Sorry - yes, just the wiki changes.
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> Done - please double check someone!
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>> Where are we with npm2deb. Should I submit a bug, or has it already been
>> fixed? Sorry - I am suck on Stretch on my laptop (waiting for more time),
>> so I do lots of manual fixing when working on a new package ATM.
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> Was npm2deb rewriting shebang ?
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> No. But maybe I went too far with the wiki update, as I also renamed the
> library install paths (as well as the binary path), and npm2deb would also
> need to update the paths in the debian/install files. I can drop that part
> of the change. In any case  I think npm2deb would need to adjust the path
> to the binary in debian/dirs and debian/install (and/or links?).
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> There is no particular urge in dropping /usr/bin/nodejs, though it would
> be nice to get there for Buster.
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>> Backports - It struck me when doing the updates to the wiki that we might
>> need a versioned depends on nodejs [Build-Depends: nodejs (>= 4.8.3~dfsg-1~)
>> to make it clear for people (like Andreas Tille) that might want to start
>> backporting node stuff to stretch. Otherwise they will need to add back the
>> patches to make things work.
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> Right now, to my knowledge, it's only version 6.11.2~dfsg-2 in unstable
> that installs /usr/bin/node.
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> Sorry again, I misread a changelog entry. Should have dug deeper.
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> Also I note on the wiki that the "nodejs-abi" might become a mandatory
>> goal for Stretch! Where did we get with that? Should we make it mandatory
>> for Buster?
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> This should be mandatory for nodejs c++ addons, though there are not
> plenty of them and it's really easy to fix using the dh helper.
> Other pure javascript libraries should not be concerned.
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> I will add that it is now mandatory on the wiki.
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> Should I leave the /lib install paths as they were? I suppose that is
> better as they match the package name (nodejs), and means less changes to
> existing packages.
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Yes, you should ! The only thing that changes is that references to the
"node" executable do not need to be renamed, now (in shebangs or else).
I say it again: i plan on keeping /usr/bin/nodejs around for a while, until
it is no longer necessary, and i think it'd be nice that Buster does not
ship /usr/bin/nodejs at all,
but if it does it's not a big issue.

Jérémy
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