[Pkg-javascript-devel] CTTE decision on nodejs (bug #862051)
Ross Gammon
javascript at the-gammons.net
Wed Aug 16 14:01:15 UTC 2017
On 16/08/17 15:06, Jérémy Lal wrote:
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> 2017-08-16 14:30 GMT+02:00 Ross Gammon <javascript at the-gammons.net
> <mailto:javascript at the-gammons.net>>:
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>
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> On 16/08/17 10:22, Jérémy Lal wrote:
>>
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>> 2017-08-16 9:08 GMT+02:00 Ross Gammon <javascript at the-gammons.net
>> <mailto:javascript at the-gammons.net>>:
>>
>> On 08/01/2017 09:14 AM, Jérémy Lal wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-08-01 7:59 GMT+02:00 Ross Gammon
>>> <javascript at the-gammons.net
>>> <mailto:javascript at the-gammons.net>>:
>>>
>>> On 07/31/2017 08:05 PM, Jérémy Lal wrote:
>>>> Hi team,
>>>>
>>>> 2017-07-31 19:17 GMT+02:00 Tollef Fog Heen
>>>> <tfheen at debian.org <mailto:tfheen at debian.org>>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The technical committee was asked in bug #862051 to
>>>> revisit the decision in
>>>> bug #614907 (conflict between the ax25-node package
>>>> and the nodejs package).
>>>>
>>>> === Resolution ===
>>>>
>>>> The Technical Committee recognises that
>>>> circumstances change in ways
>>>> that make previous resolutions no longer
>>>> appropriate. In 2012, it was
>>>> resolved that the nodejs package should not provide
>>>> /usr/bin/node due to
>>>> the historical conflict with the ax25-node
>>>> package. Node.js is still
>>>> quite popular and the ax25-node package is no
>>>> longer in stable, testing
>>>> or unstable so the requirement for nodejs to not
>>>> provide /usr/bin/node
>>>> no longer applies.
>>>>
>>>> The Committee therefore resolves that:
>>>>
>>>> 1. The CTTE decision from 2012-07-12 in bug #614907
>>>> is repealed.
>>>>
>>>> This means Debian's normal policies and practices
>>>> take over and the
>>>> nodejs package is free to provide /usr/bin/node.
>>>> The migration should
>>>> be managed according to Debian's usual
>>>> backwards-compatibility
>>>> arrangements.
>>>>
>>>> === End Resolution ===
>>>>
>>>> Please see http://bugs.debian.org/862051 for
>>>> discussion of this bug.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Next time i'll upload nodejs, it will be with
>>>> /usr/bin/node and /usr/bin/nodejs.
>>>> After that, please stop patching modules shebangs.
>>>> I suspect it is a bad idea to keep /usr/bin/nodejs
>>>> forever, so hopefully it will
>>>> be possible to remove it before buster.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jérémy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Once that is done, I will tweak
>>> https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs/Manual
>>> <https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs/Manual> and
>>> https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs
>>> <https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs> for new team
>>> members if you like.
>>>
>>> Should we eventually add something to the buster release
>>> notes to warn those users/developers that might have
>>> been unaware of nodejs-legacy, and developed their own
>>> stuff using /usr/bin/nodejs? Or is that likely to be a
>>> rare situation?
>>>
>>>
>>> I suppose it's important enough to, yes.
>>>
>>> Jérémy
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>>
>> What's "done" exactly ? The wiki changes ?
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> Sorry - yes, just the wiki changes.
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>> Done - please double check someone!
>>
>> Where are we with npm2deb. Should I submit a bug, or has it
>> already been fixed? Sorry - I am suck on Stretch on my laptop
>> (waiting for more time), so I do lots of manual fixing when
>> working on a new package ATM.
>>
>> Was npm2deb rewriting shebang ?
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> No. But maybe I went too far with the wiki update, as I also
> renamed the library install paths (as well as the binary path),
> and npm2deb would also need to update the paths in the
> debian/install files. I can drop that part of the change. In any
> case I think npm2deb would need to adjust the path to the binary
> in debian/dirs and debian/install (and/or links?).
>
>> There is no particular urge in dropping /usr/bin/nodejs, though
>> it would be nice to get there for Buster.
>>
>> Backports - It struck me when doing the updates to the wiki
>> that we might need a versioned depends on nodejs
>> [Build-Depends: nodejs (>= 4.8.3~dfsg-1~) to make it clear
>> for people (like Andreas Tille) that might want to start
>> backporting node stuff to stretch. Otherwise they will need
>> to add back the patches to make things work.
>>
>> Right now, to my knowledge, it's only version 6.11.2~dfsg-2 in
>> unstable that installs /usr/bin/node.
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> Sorry again, I misread a changelog entry. Should have dug deeper.
>
>> Also I note on the wiki that the "nodejs-abi" might become a
>> mandatory goal for Stretch! Where did we get with that?
>> Should we make it mandatory for Buster?
>>
>> This should be mandatory for nodejs c++ addons, though there are
>> not plenty of them and it's really easy to fix using the dh helper.
>> Other pure javascript libraries should not be concerned.
>
> I will add that it is now mandatory on the wiki.
>
> Should I leave the /lib install paths as they were? I suppose that
> is better as they match the package name (nodejs), and means less
> changes to existing packages.
>
>
> Yes, you should ! The only thing that changes is that references to
> the "node" executable do not need to be renamed, now (in shebangs or
> else).
> I say it again: i plan on keeping /usr/bin/nodejs around for a while,
> until it is no longer necessary, and i think it'd be nice that Buster
> does not ship /usr/bin/nodejs at all,
> but if it does it's not a big issue.
>
> Jérémy
Thanks - wiki should be fixed now.
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