[Pkg-javascript-devel] Concerns about infrastructure for Alioth replacement

[Alexander Wirt]

On Tue, 17 Oct 2017, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:

> CCing the Javascript Team.
> 
> Original post on debian-devel, see:
> Message-Id: <20171016001558.a9c2e92f9155e844f43ceb30 at paranoici.org>
> 
> Or alternatively:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/10/msg00262.html
> 
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:32:55PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Oct 2017, Francesco Poli wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 04:28:09 +0000 Ondřej Surý wrote:
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > > Francesco, great idea, go ahead. You would be most welcome to help with
> > > > Debian Ruby Extra packaging.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, I have basically zero knowledge about Rails, JavaScript
> > > and Node.js: I could not be of much help in packaging GitLab.
> > > 
> > > What I meant was that the time that will be spent in manually installing,
> > > manually adapting, and manually upgrading the upstream version, would
> > > perhaps be better spent in helping the maintainers to keep the Debian
> > > package up-to-date and in using the Debian package in stead of the upstream
> > > version...
> > Nope. I know how to setup gitlab, I don't - and I don't want to have
> > knowledge (and I don't have time to do it) to maintain numerous ruby and
> > nodejs modules. 
> > 
> > Alex
> > 
> 
> On 16 October 2017 at 06:52, Pirate Praveen <praveen at onenetbeyond.org> wrote:
> > On 10/16/2017 03:45 AM, Francesco Poli wrote:
> >> I would say that this issue with the Debian packages of GitLab should
> >> be addressed by helping the Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers to improve
> >> the Debian packages and to keep them more up-to-date.
> >
> > gitlab 9.x has switched to using node modules + webpack for front end.
> > So any help in packaging the node dependencies welcome.
> >
> > See https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs/Tasks/gitlab for the
> > current status.
> >
> > Btw all ruby dependencies for 9.5.x are packaged already.
> >
> 
> Dear Javascript Team,
> 
> Would you please consider maintaining the "numerous [...] nodejs
> modules" necessary for Debian's Alioth replacement to run on a
> Debian-built GitLab package?  We are facing a scenario that confirms
> that Debian packaging is not good enough--even for Debian's own
> infrastructure.
> 
> I would join the team, but it would take me weeks/months to learn
> about Javascript and Nodejs, and it seems this transition is imminent.
> 
> In the worst-case scenario, if that work cannot be completed on time,
> a deadline should be set for transitioning to official Debian-built
> packages.  Let's say well before DebConf18 so that it will be well
> tested for DebCamp.
> 
> Please reply to debian-devel and CC Francesco Poli <invernomuto at paranoici.org>
Please don't get me wrong, but even if gitlab packages are recent tomorrow (which I
don't think) we won't migrate. The work is done and we have all the things in
place to maintain them. So please do me a favour and don't mention alioth as
the reason. 

Alex

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