[Pkg-xmpp-devel] Kaidan migration to testing

[- Neustradamus -]

Dear Boris, and all other,

Thanks for your Kaidan remark, normally it is possible to manage a repository by several teams.
I think it is the solution.

Have you progressed on an update of Psi and Psi+ before Debian 11 freeze? People wait it, it is very old and without good security features...
- https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/psi
- https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/psi-plus

At this time, people do not use this old XMPP client (the development is always here) in Debian because no plugins, and all others.
XMPP users will always use Gajim (easy to install).

I think it will be nice to have several repositories (I do not speak about translations) like other XMPP projects: https://salsa.debian.org/xmpp-team
- gajim
- profanity
- prosody
- psi
- psi-plus
- salutatoi
- strophejs
- tkabber

ejabberd:
- https://salsa.debian.org/ejabberd-packaging-team

Linphone:
- https://salsa.debian.org/pkg-voip-team/linphone-stack

And it is very easy to do it, I think that all repositories can be in a several "stack" like linphone:
- gajim
- profanity
- prosody
- psi/psi-plus
- salutatoi
- strophejs
- tkabber

It will better to search, to update too.

I hope improvements.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Neustradamus

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De : Pkg-xmpp-devel <pkg-xmpp-devel-bounces+neustradamus=hotmail.com at alioth-lists.debian.net> de la part de Boris Pek <tehnick at debian.org>
Envoyé : lundi 25 janvier 2021 23:45
À : Aurélien COUDERC; Debian XMPP Maintainers
Cc : pkg-kde-talk at alioth-lists.debian.net
Objet : Re: [Pkg-xmpp-devel] Kaidan migration to testing

>>  How about uploading of Kaidan to official buster-backports?
>>  qxmpp/1.3.2-2~bpo10+1 is already there.
>
> that would be awesome but… Kaidan has a dependency on Qt 5.12, KF5 5.67 and we
> only have 5.11 and 5.54 in stable…

Eh, I was not aware of this...

> So that would require backporting Qt, the whole set of KF5 packages (more than
> 100 IIRC) and check that we don’t break anything in the KDE stack (from
> experience this is unlikely, there are a lot of corner cases on top of even
> normal library ABI changes which makes than impractical) or also upgrade that.

Yep, it does not make any sense.

Also if Kaidan really uses new features from Qt 5.12 and KF5 5.67 then
backporting it to older Qt and KF5 may not be so trivial and require too
much time.

> For the record I’ve notified upstream about my/our plans to ship Kaidan for
> bullseye and they were receptive, to the point of considering a long term
> support branch if that was useful to us (no guarantee, no commitment, just
> discussion so far).
>
> Besides that a 0.7.0 should be coming very soon that we can probably cram into
> bullseye.

Great news!

>>  Also what do you think about adding of "Debian XMPP Maintainers" team to
>>  Uploaders of kaidan package while it still will be maintained under umbrella
>>  of "Debian KDE Extras" team?
>
> If that’s of any use of course. Is it for getting the package on the team’s
> DDPO or/and anything else ?

Yes, as far Kaidan is more close to XMPP topic than was Kopete I was thinking
that its bug reports and updates may be interested to members of "Debian XMPP
Maintainers" team (automatic emails to mailing list).

Also it would be visible at:
https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?email=pkg-xmpp-devel%40lists.alioth.debian.org
But this is not the main reason of course.

> If you’re interested in getting commit rights to the repo feel free to ping me
> in private, I’ll give you access.

No, I do not think I'll have time for one more package. Sorry.

Best wishes,
Boris


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