Bug#883094: Accessibility: Mate: Screen reader is not available in login screen

[sirgazil]

On 04/12/17 06:18, Mike Gabriel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On  Fr 01 Dez 2017 01:02:25 CET, sirgazil wrote:
> 
>> On 30/11/17 04:38, Mike Gabriel wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On  Mi 29 Nov 2017 16:59:27 CET, sirgazil wrote:
>>>
>>>> Package: mate-desktop
>>>> Version: 1.16.2-2
>>>>
>>>> I'm using Debian Linux zenme 4.9.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.51-1 
>>>> (2017-09-28) i686 GNU/Linux.
>>>>
>>>> When a blind person starts the computer, they don't have any way of 
>>>> knowing whether the login screen has loaded or not. The system does 
>>>> not provide any aural cues for blind users, so they have to call 
>>>> sighted people to help them log in.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback on accessibility.
>>>
>>> Please note that the MATE desktop does not come with a login manager 
>>> itself. It uses a "3rd party product" for session login management.
>>>
>>> The default display manager in use for MATE desktop installations is 
>>> LightDM.
>>>
>>> Please also note that I have recently uploaded the Arctica Greeter, a 
>>> fork from Ubuntu's Unity Greeter. Arctica Greeter, like Unity 
>>> Greeter, sends a little drum roll to the speaker, so there is indeed 
>>> an accoustic signal that the greeter has loaded and the computer is 
>>> ready for login.
>>>
>>> The greeter has Orca support built-in, so you can enable it (or have 
>>> it enabled by default as a system-wide setting that survives reboot 
>>> of the computer). Orca then will read to you the different text 
>>> fragments you find on the login screen.
>>>
>>> I will ping you via this bug, once the Arctica Greeter has landed in 
>>> Debian testing.
>>>
>>> Please note that such changes as requested / proposed cannot be made 
>>> in a Debian stable release, so we need to look forward regarding this 
>>> and improve ourselves for Debian 10 (aka buster).
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input!
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>> Thank you for the information, Mike.
>>
>> I'd like to add that working around this problem by activating Orca 
>> screen reader in the LightDM GTK+ Greeter Settings is not possible 
>> because the greeter hangs when doing so (see 
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=883215).
>>
>> So it seems Debian 9 with Mate is currently not accessible at all to 
>> blind users?
> 
> Please note that LightDM GTK+ Greeter is _not_ Arctica Greeter.


Yes, I know that. I was referring to the default greeter that is used in 
Debian when you select the Mate desktop in the installation process.


> If you are not scared of third party APT repositories, you can get a 
> build of Arctica Greeter here:
> 
> ```
> deb http://packages.arctica-greeter.org/debian stretch main
> ```
> 
> The GnuPG Archive Key can be obtained this way:
> 
> ```
> wget -qO - http://packages.arctica-project.org/archive.key | sudo 
> apt-key add -
> ```
> 
> Looking forward for your feedback! Orca can be enable in the greeter 
> with ALT + SUPER + S.


Well, in this particular case, only Debian stable repositories are allowed.

I'd like to try this workaround on my machine, though, but trying to add 
the GPG Archive Key failed:

     # apt-key add archive.key
     gpg: keydb_get_keyblock failed: Value not found