Bug#883094: Accessibility: Mate: Screen reader is not available in login screen
mike.gabriel at das-netzwerkteam.de
mike.gabriel at das-netzwerkteam.de
Mon Dec 4 21:04:45 UTC 2017
Hi,
On Monday, December 4, 2017, sirgazil wrote:
> On 04/12/17 06:18, Mike Gabriel wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fr 01 Dez 2017 01:02:25 CET, sirgazil wrote:
> >
> >> On 30/11/17 04:38, Mike Gabriel wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On Mi 29 Nov 2017 16:59:27 CET, sirgazil wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Package: mate-desktop
> >>>> Version: 1.16.2-2
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm using Debian Linux zenme 4.9.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.51-1
> >>>> (2017-09-28) i686 GNU/Linux.
> >>>>
> >>>> When a blind person starts the computer, they don't have any way of
> >>>> knowing whether the login screen has loaded or not. The system does
> >>>> not provide any aural cues for blind users, so they have to call
> >>>> sighted people to help them log in.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your feedback on accessibility.
> >>>
> >>> Please note that the MATE desktop does not come with a login manager
> >>> itself. It uses a "3rd party product" for session login management.
> >>>
> >>> The default display manager in use for MATE desktop installations is
> >>> LightDM.
> >>>
> >>> Please also note that I have recently uploaded the Arctica Greeter, a
> >>> fork from Ubuntu's Unity Greeter. Arctica Greeter, like Unity
> >>> Greeter, sends a little drum roll to the speaker, so there is indeed
> >>> an accoustic signal that the greeter has loaded and the computer is
> >>> ready for login.
> >>>
> >>> The greeter has Orca support built-in, so you can enable it (or have
> >>> it enabled by default as a system-wide setting that survives reboot
> >>> of the computer). Orca then will read to you the different text
> >>> fragments you find on the login screen.
> >>>
> >>> I will ping you via this bug, once the Arctica Greeter has landed in
> >>> Debian testing.
> >>>
> >>> Please note that such changes as requested / proposed cannot be made
> >>> in a Debian stable release, so we need to look forward regarding this
> >>> and improve ourselves for Debian 10 (aka buster).
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your input!
> >>> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you for the information, Mike.
> >>
> >> I'd like to add that working around this problem by activating Orca
> >> screen reader in the LightDM GTK+ Greeter Settings is not possible
> >> because the greeter hangs when doing so (see
> >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=883215).
> >>
> >> So it seems Debian 9 with Mate is currently not accessible at all to
> >> blind users?
> >
> > Please note that LightDM GTK+ Greeter is _not_ Arctica Greeter.
>
>
> Yes, I know that. I was referring to the default greeter that is used in
> Debian when you select the Mate desktop in the installation process.
>
>
> > If you are not scared of third party APT repositories, you can get a
> > build of Arctica Greeter here:
> >
> > ```
> > deb http://packages.arctica-greeter.org/debian stretch main
> > ```
> >
> > The GnuPG Archive Key can be obtained this way:
> >
> > ```
> > wget -qO - http://packages.arctica-project.org/archive.key | sudo
> > apt-key add -
> > ```
> >
> > Looking forward for your feedback! Orca can be enable in the greeter
> > with ALT + SUPER + S.
>
>
> Well, in this particular case, only Debian stable repositories are allowed.
>
> I'd like to try this workaround on my machine, though, but trying to add
> the GPG Archive Key failed:
>
> # apt-key add archive.key
> gpg: keydb_get_keyblock failed: Value not found
>
>
Does archive.key really contain a GPG public key? It seems that the key block is missing in the file you use as archive.key. Please check with a text editor or pager...
Mike
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