Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Felipe Sateler (2014-08-27 17:19:27)
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Andreas Tille <andreas at an3as.eu> wrote:
>> yesterday I joined the videostream of the installer BoF at 
>> DebConf[1]. I also became a bit involved via IRC.  Joey Hess raised 
>> the question about the criteria to add a Blend or not.  I answered 
>> "all in the list of the bug report #758116" which IMHO fits the 
>> criterion of "actively maintained and some valuable content for 
>> users".
>>
>> I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend 
>> confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists 
>> in question to ask you for confirmation.
>
> Do we want to pursue this? I think that if we could manage to provide 
> useful blend packages it would be worth it, but so far I have failed 
> to do so. I think maybe we need to rethink the approach and reduce the 
> number of metapackages. Today we have too many. Maybe we should reduce 
> them to 2: multimedia-codecs and multimedia-production.

When this blend emerged I was surprised it only grouped by functionality 
- I imagine few users need "8 ways to loop audio" or "7 drum machines", 
and more need either "a rich drum-machine and rudimentary other tools 
missing from that specific tool relevant for drum-oriented production" 
or "a rich loop engine and rudimentary add-on tools missing from that 
specific tool relevant for loop-oriented multimedia production".

Each such "scenario"-oriented would have the potential to grow from 
simple metapackage to also include choice of window manager and custom 
tuning of that to optimize for the scenario, and suitable Gtk+ and Qt 
skin, and some graphics that goes well with it.  I.e. "spice" not 
technically multimedia but part of a multimedia user experience.

The games team has created metapackages grouped by gaming style, but 
also done a few subjective selections.  That I find inspiring.

Perhaps leave all the current multimedia metapackages as-is, but add 
additional subjective ones each composing an _environment_ for 
consuming/producing multimedia.

Also consuming multimedia is IMO relevant to group like that: When using 
KDE (and therefore libphonon) what is recommended players and codec 
packages and whatever to use together?  How about a lightweight (i.e. 
non-GNOME and non-KDE) desktop - what do we recommend to use there?

For the DebianParl blend (which uses Xfce desktop) I have experimented 
with avoiding GStreamer framework altogether.  That is possible - and is 
quite lightweight.


Specifically your idea to create a multimedia-codecs: I think few user 
really wants "all codecs in the FLOSS World" - that's merely the 
desparate consequence of "all relevant FLOSS codecs installed and 
properly registered" too often missing.  Let's fix the real problem, not 
encourage our users to bogusly reframe it.


 - Jonas

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