Bug#630850: nvidia-glx: Unacceptable upload to Sid breaks KDE 4.6.3 install

Russ Allbery rra at debian.org
Sat Jun 18 04:30:34 UTC 2011

"Marc J. Driftmeyer" <mjd at reanimality.com> writes:
> On 06/17/2011 06:32 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:

>> If you want things that have passed QA, use Debian stable.  Debian
>> unstable is exactly what it says on the tin.

> However, suggesting stable is a lame retort. I could never make that
> excuse at NeXT nor Apple Engineering.

Thank you for the praise!  But I still have to say... it really isn't
meant as a retort.  Unstable is where things break.  This isn't NeXT, or
Apple Engineering, both of which are professional companies with full-time
staff who are paid to ensure that users never see problems.  Debian
doesn't have that; unstable is basically our equivalent of internal
engineering builds.  Sometimes they're going to break.  Sometimes they're
going to break *hard*.

If you can live with it breaking occasionally, it works well and gets you
new software the fastest.  I use it on several of my systems.  And filing
a bug when it breaks is absolutely the right thing to do.  But if you're
running unstable, to some extent you *are* QA.  :)

I was just worried that you didn't know what you'd gotten into when you
sounded pretty annoyed by it.  If it's going to really annoy you when we
break something hard, unstable might not be the best place to be.  I'm not
trying to be defensive, just saying that while we try to avoid stuff like
this, sometimes it ends up happening, and one has to back out of a mess.

> When everything in the depends are covered these drivers are far more
> stable than they have ever been in the past and I credit the nvidia
> package maintainers, solely, for such efforts.

Pretty much all Andreas there.  He's doing a fantastic job.  :)

Russ Allbery (rra at debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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