[pkg-php-pear] Bug#976811: transition: php8.1

Ondřej Surý ondrej at sury.org
Mon Nov 22 14:26:45 GMT 2021

> On 22. 11. 2021, at 14:15, David Prévot <david at tilapin.org> wrote:
> Le 22/11/2021 à 08:45, Ondřej Surý a écrit :
> > Or we could stop delaying the inevitable[1] and instead of bumping
> > epoch just go ahead with the transition.
> You don’t need to bump epoch (especially on source package and every binary ones) just to temporarily bump version of one binary package.
> IIRC, last time such transition was pushed in an uncoordinated way like this (7.3 -> 7.4), it took months to handle. Can we please not repeat this painful experience for such an expected bigger transition (7.4 -> 8.1)?

You asked for more time last December, a year has passed and it’s again not good time. What would just having more time grant? We cannot have bookworm released with PHP 7.4, so what will change and how much more time will be “enough”? We cannot hold back on PHP version because Debian contains software that cannot keep up with the PHP release model. People would actually appreciate having a recent PHP interpreter packaged in Debian instead of software written in PHP. As far as I understand most people are using stuff like composer anyway.

> The current status is holding some of us to actually work on this transition (e.g., I’m not able to properly build and push new versions expected to actually work with recent PHP, and have little view of the remaining issues that could be spotted via autopkgtests in experimental, since little or no bugs were raised on affected packages).

What transition? PHP 7.4 has been released in Debian bullseye, so I cannot imaging what transition you are talking about. PHP 7.4 is switching to security-only in December with only one extra year. We need to switch to PHP 8.1 now and to PHP 8.2 before bookworm release.

So, again - how much time would be enough if a year was not enough?

Ondřej Surý (He/Him)
ondrej at sury.org

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