[Pkg-puppet-devel] packaging puppet and clojure ITPs

[Elana Hashman]

On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 03:07:32PM -0700, tony mancill wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 09:47:05PM +0200, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
> > Le 04/07/2020 à 21:14, Markus Koschany a écrit :
> > 
> > > I can grant you owner rights for the java-team on salsa.d.o, either
> > > temporary or permanent, so that you can complete your task. I believe
> > > ebourg and tmancill won't mind.
> > 
> > 
> > +1 for permanent owner rights to the Queen of Debian Clojure :)
> > 
> > That said, the Java and Clojure repositories could all live in the same
> > java-team group on Salsa. This lowers the barrier of entry in both
> > directions, and since the two ecosystems are closely related I think
> > that makes sense.
> 
> Elana can decide what will work best for the Clojure Team, but I am +1
> for lowering the barrier to entry between the teams.
> 
> Getting up on my soapbox, it can be tempting to over-engineer group
> membership when the main purpose of the VCS is to facilitate
> collaboration.  (I'm not really referring to Debian with that statement;
> it seems to happen in many organizations.) In this case, we could take
> all of the members of the Clojure Team [1] and add them to the java-team
> if that would help.

Thanks all!

Giving me temp owner access on the Java team is fine.

The split is intended to be logical and not a barrier to contribution.
In my experience with Clojure and Java packages, they require different
skills and feel totally different to package and build. When I look at
all the packages across the Java team, it's easy to get overwhelmed, and
I have struggled a little with trying to upgrade arbitrary packages
(jgit comes to mind...)

So to me it makes sense to put all the Clojure packages in one
Clojure-specific place to make them easy to search and contribute to,
and I hope we can make permissions work out to make contributing easy
for everyone. In this case, I think most of the new contributors are
neither on the Java nor Clojure teams?

- e
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