[Pkg-rust-maintainers] Bug#1013920: rust-all: Debian violating Rust Trademark (as serious a situation as "iceweasel")

[Geert Stappers]

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 01:58:41PM +0100, lkcl wrote:
> everything is "fine" as long as:
>
> 1) the Mozilla Foundation acts reasonably and non-discriminatorily
> (FRAND applies to Trademarks just as it applies to patent Licensing)
> 2) the Mozilla Foundation does not appreciate quite how much power it
> actually has under Trademark Law.
>
> given that this is between Free Software Groups i would expect the
> discussion to remain civil and reasonable, and for them to drop or
> modify the unachievable nonfree constraint, but please for goodness
> sake do not let the civility of the interaction lull you into a sense
> of false safety.
>
> under the Trademark as they have defined it, the Mozilla Foundation
> is perfectly permitted to issue Debian a Legal Notice to Cease and
> Desist distribution of the Unlawfully patched rustc binaries.
>
> l.


Hi Luke,
Hi all others,


Let's continue thinking several steps ahead.

* Allow all room to move forward
* Accept there is NO  "request pending" documentation,
  trust https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1013920#10
  that it is "work in progress"
* Ask over six weeks how much you should worry about this
* Meanwhile team-up with other Linux distributions
* Meanwhile create a concept letter you want to have, like
    We, Mozilla Foundation grant these Linux distributions
    * foo
    * bar
    * debian
    * baz
    to distribute our Rust and our Cargo that we still
    can recognice as our Rust and as our Cargo.
* Continue enjoying Rust and Cargo



Regards
Geert Stappers


P.S.

a Trade Mark is a request for respect, not a demand for respect.
And yes, respect is something like trust, it has to be earnt.
-- 
Silence is hard to parse