[Pkg-sugar-devel] Bug#790158: Bug#790158: Upstream comment
jonas at jones.dk
Mon Oct 16 10:05:00 UTC 2017
Quoting James Cameron (2017-10-16 11:30:55)
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:20:16AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Quoting James Cameron (2017-10-16 07:03:24)
> > > Upstream could bring python-rsvg source into the code base; would that
> > > be okay?
> > No.
> > The team in Debian familiar with librsvg decides that its end of life is
> > reached. I will not be comfortable with sidestepping that decision by
> > essentially taking over maintenance with Sugarlabs as new upstream!
> Actually, librsvg2 isn't end of life, but gnome-python-desktop is; a
> strange place for the binding, but hey, it's what we have.
Right I was sloppy above. More accurately python-rsvg is deprecated -
exactly as is the subject of this bugreport says (and inherently the
subject of of this email thread until you renamed it).
> The binding is really tiny.
> wc --lines ...
> 135 rsvg.defs
> 35 rsvgmodule.c
> 229 rsvg.override
Size is not really the issue. Issue is maintenance.
If you step up as upstream maintainer of python-rsvg then I will
consider packaging that for Debian. As an independent project.
> Or fork to run librsvg2-bin /usr/bin/rsvg-convert
Yes, that is indeed another option.
>>> Porting from python-rsvg to gir1.2-rsvg-2.0 would also require
>>> porting to GTK+ 2 GObject introspection. This would break
>>> compatibility with downloaded Sugar activities.
>> GTK+ 2.x is on its way out. And _that_ is really what breaks
>> activities depending on GTK+ 2.x.
>> Activities using GTK+ 2.x is expected to stop working with Debian
>> relatively soon.
> Okay. For Buster or later?
Again I was sloppy. Arguably I failed at being helpful in my response:
The original bugreport summarizes accurately the state of affairs.
Also, bugreporter offers help clarifying any questions. Please try ask
about the _original_ bugreport not my sloppy commenting on it, however.
I believe your question, if asked more narrowly for the original
bugreport, is already answered in that original bugreport: Buster!
>> I don't see any other (realistic) option than porting to modern stuff
>> like GTK+ 3.x and gir.
> Agreed. I've heard that hundreds of programs are affected, but they
> aren't in Debian, so not our problem here.
> I've checked Sid dependencies, to predict next steps, described below;
> have I understood consequences correctly?
> Debian will remove src:sugar-toolkit and python-sugar-toolkit, which
> will cascade to;
> - remove the python-sugar-toolkit recommends in package sucrose,
Yes, or just lower to only suggest.
> - remove gtk2-engines-sugar from src:sugar-artwork, and the recommends
> in package sucrose,
> - remove package sugar-presence-service, (python-sugar-toolkit held
> the last dependency),
> - remove or package new upstream releases for
> - remove or wait for new upstream release for
> sugar-jigsawpuzzle-activity, logged upstream as
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