[Pkg-sugar-devel] Debian Sugar package maintenance moving forward

Jonas Smedegaard jonas at jones.dk
Tue May 14 08:38:48 BST 2019

Quoting Alex Perez (2019-05-14 01:06:47)
> Jonas Smedegaard wrote on 5/13/19 4:00 PM:
> > Please do not contact me discretely.
> >
> > Reply-To: and Mail-Followup-To: headers both pointed to the 
> > mailinglist!
> ...and until this problem is fixed, every single e-mail I send there 
> will be held for moderation, so this behavior is unfortunately not 
> helping the situation.

Ok, I understand now why you contacted me discretely.

Please post to the list (not me discretely), however: Notifications are 
correct in that those emails are "held for moderation" (i.e. not lost).

> > Quoting Alex Perez (2019-05-13 22:58:53)
> >> Are you currently using https://salsa.debian.org/pkg-sugar-team at 
> >> all?
> > Sorry, I don't understand the question.
> I don't see any activity there, so I don't know if Salsa is something 
> that's used within the context of Sugar package management.

If you look only at places not changed recently then conclusions drawn 
would obviously be flawed.

An example known to you is my recent activity on sugar-toolkit-gtk3: 

> >> Jonas Smedegaard wrote on 5/13/19 2:54 AM:
> >>> NB! Please subscribe to our mailinglist.  Subscription page is
> >>> referenced from https://wiki.debian.org/Sugar#Development
> >> I have attempted to several times, but have never received the
> >> confirmation e-mail. Is something broken, or does someone need to
> >> manually approve my subscription?
> > That's odd.
> >
> > Just to be sure - which URL did oyu end up subscribing at, and for which
> > email address?
> I have attempted over six times to subscribe at 
> https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-sugar-devel
> I have tried two different e-mail addresses multiple times, both 
> aperez at alexperez.com and aperez at sugarlabs.org.

Ah, thanks for clarifying.

I am indeed listmaster (i.e. administrate this specific list) but I am 
not postmaster (i.e. have no power over the email machinery as a whole).

Please try get in touch with the postmasters of the mailinglist service 
- their multiple forms of contact is listed on the website front page: 

I can also get in touch with them but since I have no special powers 
neither at list end nor at your end, it is likely easier to examine with 
you directly involved.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

> Every time I e-mail pkg-sugar-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org, I receive 
> the following in response:
> Your mail to 'pkg-sugar-devel' with the subject
>      Open Debian Sugar bug bug
> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
> The reason it is being held:
>      Post by non-member to a members-only list

Yes, this part is working as intended: Emails from strangers are held 
back requiring manual screening to enter the list - to limit spam.

You are a stranger to the list until registered on the list.

 - Jonas

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