Bug#823322: please build "systemd-sysusers" binary

[Dmitry Smirnov]

Dear Michael,

On Monday, 6 June 2016 1:53:02 PM AEST Michael Biebl wrote:
> Now, regarding my concerns: The size increase is one (which will affect
> everyone if we ship it s part of the systemd package).

Michael, I don't know how to respond to this. It was mentioned that size 
increase we are talking about is only 380k (uncompressed) which is 1/3 of a 
floppy disk. Seriously? How can this be a concern these days in 2016?


> More importantly, enabling a new feature means we'll have to support it
> in the future as people will eventually make use of it.

This is exactly why this feature was requested -- to make use of it.
Would you be as reluctant to enable this systemd feature if GNOME gained 
dependency on it?


> So we better have a good reason to turn it on.

Here is one: these days containers are obviously useful and important 
technology. 
Good support for containers is strategically important for Debian success.
Isn't that enough?


> Maybe I missed it, but I haven't quite understood yet, why rkt has a
> hard (and not a soft) depenency on systemd-sysusers. The upstream bug
> report that was referenced earlier wasn't really enlightening in that
> regard.

I believe by now you have all information you wanted.
What would help you to make up your mind?


> As for the bug severity ping pong: sorry for that, this wasn't really
> necessary and is just off-putting. In the end it doesn't really change
> anything though in the issue at hand.

I expected more cooperation on this matter. Since this bug was opened over 6 
weeks ago there were several uploads of systemd but this problem was not 
addressed and "rkt" remained unusable all this time so I am very 
disappointed.

I've spent months packaging "rkt" and its dependency chains so indeed it 
would be very sad if we had to request its removal.

Please, pretty please address the issue ASAP or provide time frame for 
decision to be made... We shouldn't let packages to be broken for so long.

Thanks.

-- 
Regards,
 Dmitry Smirnov.

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