Bug#884595: kernel recognizes keyboards and mice as joysticks

Markus Koschany apo at debian.org
Tue Dec 19 23:08:23 GMT 2017


Am 19.12.2017 um 20:26 schrieb Stephen Kitt:
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 23:15:02 +0100, Markus Koschany <apo at debian.org> wrote:
>> Am 18.12.2017 um 22:59 schrieb Stephen Kitt:
>>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 17:55:21 +0100, Markus Koschany <apo at debian.org>
>>> wrote:  
>>>> Preliminary work is already available at:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/denilsonsa/udev-joystick-blacklist
>>>>
>>>> If the udev maintainers don't want to create and maintain such a
>>>> blacklist, then please mark this bug report as "wontfix" accordingly.
>>>> Please don't reassign it back to affected games and applications.
>>>> Whether I or someone else wants to provide a patch should not be the
>>>> criterion for bug assignment.  
>>>
>>> ... and the joystick package includes the blacklist linked above.
>>> Installing that should fix many of this issues.
>>
>> Alas the joystick package is only optional while udev is priority
>> important. It is rather unlikely that someone will have it installed
>> already. The issue is that those people would not even think about a
>> joystick, they just assume the game/application is broken. It's rather
>> strange to recommend the installation of joystick when you want to play
>> a game without one. This issue should be solved in packages which are
>> guaranteed to be installed on a default desktop computer like udev.
> 
> I’m not claiming it’s the perfect solution, I’m just saying it’s one way for
> users affected by this to fix it (note I didn’t close the bug).

Yeah, I can tell you and Michael apart. My point is that our users won't
make the connection between the game ("controls don't work, it is
broken!), the kernel and some udev rules in your joystick package. You
must explicitly tell them to install it and only very few of them file
bug report anyways.

> The fix is
> available in stable right now, they don’t have to wait for a putative future
> ideal fix. (I think this should be fixed in the kernel, and I know some
> people working on it...)

Sure. This is better than nothing but the kernel issues were reported
six years ago. With a bit of good will we could have already mitigated
this for a large number of users.


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