[Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#440143: Bug#440143: network-manager: No GNOME applet (yet)

[Michael Biebl]

Cyril Brulebois schrieb:
> [Please keep the bug in Cc, thanks.]
> 
> Andrew McMillan <andrew at catalyst.net.nz> (30/08/2007):
>>> The reasonable fix is to wait for the package to get out of NEW.
>> So where can I get it from until then?  How long will it take?
> 
> Nowhere, that's the NEW queue (packages may have legal troubles and the
> like, that's why there are available for no-one but FTP masters).
> 
> No ETA. Some packages get out really quickly (some hours), some others
> may wait some days or even weeks, depending on manpower, workload and so
> on.
> 
>>> AFAICT, gnome isn't the only UI (network-manager-kde…). By reading
>>> the changelog, you may also notice that several bugs are fixed by
>>> this upload, that might explains why the maintainer didn't wait for
>>> the other package to go out of NEW.
>> Sure, I understand that half the world uses KDE, and that
>> network-manager-kde likely suffered similar problems, but how many of
>> those installations were broken *before* this upload, vs. how many
>> Gnome ones are broken *after*.
> 
> Well, what breaks? There's a conflict, so either one removes the -gnome
> package, or keep the installed network-manager package. In the former
> case, one might think that something will be broken, so could tend not
> to force the upgrade. Then, by reading the changelog, one might
> understand that another -gnome binary is expected, and then wait for it.
> That's at least what I would expect from sid users.
> 
>> AFAICS the package would not normally be installed when it *does* come
>> out of NEW, either, because it's been uninstalled now, so people will
>> have to manually go back and reselect it.
> 
> That's correct, since you ACK'd the removal.

As Cyril explained it already very accurately, the correct way (for
users using network-manager-gnome) is simply to not force the upgrade
until network-manager-applet has left NEW. The old 0.6.4 packages will
then automatically be kept on hold.
The default of apt-get and aptitude is, to not remove packages on
upgrade (unless you do a dist-upgrade resp. full-upgrade).
For the future, simply use apt-get upgrade or aptitude safe-upgrade.
Otherwise you will hit the same problem on library transitions etc.

Cheers,
Michael

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