Bug#305530: Video plugins

Olleg Samoylov Olleg Samoylov <olleg@mipt.ru>, 305530@bugs.debian.org
Tue, 17 May 2005 12:16:18 +0400


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Kilian Krause wrote:
> well, my rationale is easy enough. I'm entirely agreed that your
> definition sounds logical to you, but as long as the average user cannot
> run "ohphone -v" and then receive an informational message about missing
> plugins, I do not want to face the new bugs telling "video does not
> work". I'll see what upstream tells about this, yet I think we'll live
> with these few 132kB installed (size of v4l.so). Having a virtual

Okey, 132kB is not large. My rationale is simple also. This is 
disconform debian policy. Though, it is not great trouble. :-)

And there are four different video plugin and two audio. With both audio 
plugin, oss or alsa, ohphone will work in debian linux. The only 
difference if user is advanced enough to configure alsa, for instance 
with dmix. But for such users is not problem change oss plugin to alsa. 
:-) Thus audio plugin may be installed automaticaly. Though alsa plugin 
is preferred.

What about video plugin? Is this universal video plugin to work with all 
webcam? IMHO users must be faced to choose video plugin for his webcam. 
Also unadvanced users often turn to install suggested packages by 
default. Thus put video plugn in suggested is right.

Video plugin in "depends" looked like a maintainer mistake but don't 
discomfort me. I don't insist. Keep my advise as an opinion from one of 
the users.

Also I'll be satisfied if in ohphone-basic will be only audio with video 
in suggested. ohphone-basic is version for minimalist, isn't it? :-)

Good luck.

-- 
Olleg Samoylov

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