Bug#305530: Video plugins

[Kilian Krause]

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Hi Olleg,

Am Dienstag, den 17.05.2005, 12:16 +0400 schrieb Olleg Samoylov:
> Kilian Krause wrote:
> > well, my rationale is easy enough. I'm entirely agreed that your
> > definition sounds logical to you, but as long as the average user canno=
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> > run "ohphone -v" and then receive an informational message about missin=
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> > plugins, I do not want to face the new bugs telling "video does not
> > work". I'll see what upstream tells about this, yet I think we'll live
> > with these few 132kB installed (size of v4l.so). Having a virtual
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> Okey, 132kB is not large. My rationale is simple also. This is=20
> disconform debian policy. Though, it is not great trouble. :-)

only if you insist that video is a non-essential feature of ohphone. And
for me that is one of the core features, thus policy compliant. I think
we can ask Craig about this, if you feel like it, but as you said, the
effect either way is small enough to just settle it like this.

> And there are four different video plugin and two audio. With both audio=20
> plugin, oss or alsa, ohphone will work in debian linux. The only=20
> difference if user is advanced enough to configure alsa, for instance=20
> with dmix. But for such users is not problem change oss plugin to alsa.=20
> :-) Thus audio plugin may be installed automaticaly. Though alsa plugin=20
> is preferred.

wrong. Sarge ships with OSS as default. Even though this is 99%
non-full-duplex Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo has ruled that OSS needs to be
the preferred plugin. I do still not support this by free will, but i
agree that at least for Sarge this is a reasonable default. Anyway, for
Etch we'll have this whole issue sorted out anyway I hope.

> What about video plugin? Is this universal video plugin to work with all=20
> webcam?

If you want the "universal" solution, then having no plugins at all and
all features monolithic would be preferred. The choice is by plain
majority of active users in TheRealWorld(TM) and that's V4L1 for now.

>  IMHO users must be faced to choose video plugin for his webcam.=20
> Also unadvanced users often turn to install suggested packages by=20
> default. Thus put video plugn in suggested is right.
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> Video plugin in "depends" looked like a maintainer mistake but don't=20
> discomfort me. I don't insist. Keep my advise as an opinion from one of=20
> the users.

Ok, acknowledged and chosen to be not agreed to. ;)

> Also I'll be satisfied if in ohphone-basic will be only audio with video=20
> in suggested. ohphone-basic is version for minimalist, isn't it? :-)

mmmh, you have a valid point there. I'll prepare this and see if
ohphone-basic even does offer video. If not, that's even more of a
reason to "fix" the wrong depends. ;)

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Best regards,
 Kilian

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