Allow asterisk to build on bookworm without bookwork-backports (systemd-dev dependency)

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting José Miguel Gonçalves via Pkg-voip-maintainers (2024-12-12 00:13:55)
> Hi Jonas,
> 
> On 11/12/24 22:27, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Last I heard from you was when you replied to a post I made, where I
> > essentially wrote the same as I did a moment ago: Engage in bugtracking.
> >
> > Back then I did not answer your question, because I found it so obvious
> > that what I had just written to someone else on this same mailinglist
> > applied to you as well.
> >
> > I apologize if that was for some reason not obvious.  It was not my
> > intention to ignore you - I just felt somewhat ignored myself.
> 
> Sorry, but it is not obvious to me the way you want contributions to be 
> performed.
> Do you want that we "engage in bugtracking", but that is a bit vague to me.

Please help me understand: How you find my _other_ post vague?


> >> In my personal interest, I would like to see a backport
> > When I search my email archive for your name, you have mostly posted
> > about your giving up on making Debian packages work and instead using
> > upstream-provided sources built against stable Debian environments.
> >
> > So please, don't repeat that, I know already that you like that option.
> > Let me instead repeat, that Debian is what Debian is - something that
> > aims for stability. ALL PARTS OF DEBIAN aims for stability. Not only
> > whatever else besides the part you are personally excited about. ALL!
> >
> > You are very welcome to join the effort of Debian. Of stabilizing.
> > I find it an exciting work - but some find it boring - that's ok.
> >
> > There are also efforts *around* Debian, including some on doing
> > backporting.  But the task we do here, first and foremost, before loking
> > into those other more fringe tasks, is that of stability.
> 
> I think you misunderstood my intentions, or are confusing me with other 
> person.
> I praise stability... I use Asterisk Debian packages since 2015.
> The case is that I need, for my work, to use an Asterisk 20 package in 
> bookworm and, as this is not available right now from Debian, I needed 
> to do my own backport.
> I don't see how this is giving up Debian packages... I still use Debian 
> packaging, just updated to latest 20 upstream sources and applied Debian 
> patches available for 20.9.3.

You really do want to talk about forks of official Debian packages,
popularly known as backports.

Well, I was referring to someone posting from the email address
jose.goncalves at inov.pt who since 2021 brought up backporting in
11 out of 13 email.  I have no doubt that this person (you?) have good
intentions and is enthusiastic about helping out - I merely point out
that there is really no need to mention backports here, because those
are very much secondary to our work here, and it pains me to be reminded
that some people (not you, those not showing an interest in stability)
prioritizing backports over the very stuff that makes it possible to
backport: something that is stable in the first place, as a foundation
e.g. for such simpler and shorter-lived efforts of backporting.


 - Jonas

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