wmaker-data

[Torrance, Douglas]

On Thu 15 Dec 2022 11:21:23 PM GMT, Jeremy Sowden <jeremy at azazel.net> wrote:
> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]]
> On 2022-12-15, at 22:13:16 +0000, Jeremy Sowden wrote:
>> On 2022-12-15, at 22:07:51 +0000, Jeremy Sowden wrote:
>> > Access to the upstream site for wmaker-data:
>> >
>> >   http://www.rolamasao.org/wmaker-data/
>> >
>> > has been spotty for some time.  Currently, the host-name doesn't
>> > actually resolve.  In fact, the NS servers for the domain don't
>> > resolve either:
>> >
>> >   $ dig +trace www.rolamasao.org
>> >
>> >   ; <<>> DiG 9.18.8-1-Debian <<>> +trace www.rolamasao.org
>> >   ;; global options: +cmd
>> >   .                       94114   IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
>> >   [...]
>> >   ;; Received 1137 bytes from
>> > 2001:8b0:fb7d:d6d7:e0:4cff:fe83:e514#53(2001:8b0:fb7d:d6d7:e0:4cff:fe83:e514)
>> > in 72 ms
>> >
>> >   org.                    172800  IN      NS      a0.org.afilias-nst.info.
>> >   [...]
>> >   ;; Received 783 bytes from 2001:500:2d::d#53(d.root-servers.net) in 8 ms
>> >
>> >   rolamasao.org.          3600    IN      NS      ns3.rolamasao.org.
>> >   rolamasao.org.          3600    IN      NS      ns.rolamasao.org.
>> >   rolamasao.org.  3600 IN DS 37530 14 2
>> > 99BAA45F85152978C41658EEDA6A050FBD9AD5349FDB867EA0C76082 73D0BDDF
>> >   rolamasao.org.  3600 IN RRSIG DS 8 2 3600 20221230152222
>> > 20221209142222 37749
>> > org. kZUn7q32UFZv90nrux/p6C/FInEcTk7kSSsjfi6XFShlwbe4/nVcvpNI
>> > qE9GvOaUiS7QYwoSDmRTM4GI9Jc50ZYbWmAIU6ybzo0iufUv1p6jVRQq
>> > Ngmz29FLdFkGnxiBlf4mx0ZBl6TxWVkQk5QGzHFI+j1HejqYHbslIwrz VEA=
>> >   couldn't get address for 'ns3.rolamasao.org': failure
>> >   couldn't get address for 'ns.rolamasao.org': failure
>> >   dig: couldn't get address for 'ns3.rolamasao.org': no more
>> >
>> > The package has been maintained by the WM team since I salvaged it
>> > last year from the previous maintainer, who is also the upstream.  I
>> > have a copy of the upstream site that I grabbed when I first noticed
>> > that it was intermittently unavailable:
>> >
>> >   https://azazel.net/~azazel/wmaker-data/rolamasao.org/wmaker-data/
>> >
>> > On the assumption that the upstream site is in fact defunct, I was
>> > considering what to do.  I could host it myself, but my inclination
>> > would be to put it up at windowmaker.org or dockapps.net.  I wanted
>> > to get a second opinion before proposing it on wmaker-dev.  What do
>> > you think?
>>
>> [Apologies for replying to myself.]
>
> In for a penny, in for a pound :)
>
>> Given that the upstream site is basically just some history and
>> authorship info and a list of tar-balls, a dockapps.net page would be
>> the obvious candidate.
>
> It does occur to me, however, that perhaps this should go back to being
> a native package.  Once upon a time somebody pulled together icons from
> several places on the net in order to make them available in Debian.  At
> this point the only source of those icons is the Debian package.  The
> last upstream site was already explicitly created in order to be an
> artificial upstream for the package.  Now that that seems to be dead,
> why create another if the contents of this package have no existence
> outside Debian?

I don't think there's anything Debian-specific about wmaker-data aside from its
history, so I don't think a native package is the way to go.

It's not really a dockapp, either, so my preference would be for somewhere on
windowmaker.org.  There's actually a precedent -- according to NEWS, we used
to distribute a separate WindowMaker-data.tar.gz, which also only contained
icons.

Assuming it's referring the same file still available at [1], they're actually
entirely different icons!

Doug

[1] https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-4.0/source/contrib/wmaker/
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