wmaker-data

[Jeremy Sowden]

On 2022-12-16, at 02:34:51 +0000, Torrance, Douglas wrote:
> On Thu 15 Dec 2022 11:21:23 PM GMT, Jeremy Sowden wrote:
> > On 2022-12-15, at 22:13:16 +0000, Jeremy Sowden wrote:
> > > On 2022-12-15, at 22:07:51 +0000, Jeremy Sowden wrote:
> > > > Access to the upstream site for wmaker-data:
> > > >
> > > >   http://www.rolamasao.org/wmaker-data/
> > > >
> > > > has been spotty for some time.  Currently, the host-name doesn't
> > > > actually resolve.  In fact, the NS servers for the domain don't
> > > > resolve either:
> > > >
> > > >   $ dig +trace www.rolamasao.org
> > > >
> > > >   [...]
> > > >
> > > >   rolamasao.org.  3600 IN NS ns3.rolamasao.org.
> > > >   rolamasao.org.  3600 IN NS ns.rolamasao.org.
> > > >   rolamasao.org.  3600 IN DS 37530 14 2 99BAA45F85152978C41658EEDA6A050FBD9AD5349FDB867EA0C76082 73D0BDDF
> > > >   rolamasao.org.  3600 IN RRSIG DS 8 2 3600 20221230152222 20221209142222 37749 org. kZUn7q32UFZv90nrux/p6C/FInEcTk7kSSsjfi6XFShlwbe4/nVcvpNI qE9GvOaUiS7QYwoSDmRTM4GI9Jc50ZYbWmAIU6ybzo0iufUv1p6jVRQq Ngmz29FLdFkGnxiBlf4mx0ZBl6TxWVkQk5QGzHFI+j1HejqYHbslIwrz VEA=
> > > >   couldn't get address for 'ns3.rolamasao.org': failure
> > > >   couldn't get address for 'ns.rolamasao.org': failure
> > > >   dig: couldn't get address for 'ns3.rolamasao.org': no more
> > > >
> > > > The package has been maintained by the WM team since I salvaged it
> > > > last year from the previous maintainer, who is also the upstream.  I
> > > > have a copy of the upstream site that I grabbed when I first noticed
> > > > that it was intermittently unavailable:
> > > >
> > > >   https://azazel.net/~azazel/wmaker-data/rolamasao.org/wmaker-data/
> > > >
> > > > On the assumption that the upstream site is in fact defunct, I was
> > > > considering what to do.  I could host it myself, but my inclination
> > > > would be to put it up at windowmaker.org or dockapps.net.  I wanted
> > > > to get a second opinion before proposing it on wmaker-dev.  What do
> > > > you think?
> > >
> > > [Apologies for replying to myself.]
> >
> > In for a penny, in for a pound :)
> >
> > > Given that the upstream site is basically just some history and
> > > authorship info and a list of tar-balls, a dockapps.net page would be
> > > the obvious candidate.
> >
> > It does occur to me, however, that perhaps this should go back to being
> > a native package.  Once upon a time somebody pulled together icons from
> > several places on the net in order to make them available in Debian.  At
> > this point the only source of those icons is the Debian package.  The
> > last upstream site was already explicitly created in order to be an
> > artificial upstream for the package.  Now that that seems to be dead,
> > why create another if the contents of this package have no existence
> > outside Debian?
>
> I don't think there's anything Debian-specific about wmaker-data aside from its
> history, so I don't think a native package is the way to go.
>
> It's not really a dockapp, either, so my preference would be for somewhere on
> windowmaker.org.  There's actually a precedent -- according to NEWS, we used
> to distribute a separate WindowMaker-data.tar.gz, which also only contained
> icons.
>
> Assuming it's referring the same file still available at [1], they're actually
> entirely different icons!
>
> Doug
>
> [1] https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-4.0/source/contrib/wmaker/

Cool.  Thanks for your input.  I'll broach the subject on wmaker-dev.

J.
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