[Pkg-xen-devel] Pending upload

[Jeremy T. Bouse]

Ralph Passgang wrote:

>Yeah, we should ask to reject the packages and why (at least a link to the 
>discussion on the devel list).
>
>It would be ugly if Bastian has changed a lot from 2.0.6 and we would have to 
>support a clean upgrade from 2.0.6 (or 2.0.7 inofficial packages) + from 
>bastian 3.0.x package. It would also only make the "disgreement" public that 
>seems to be existing between bastians plans and more or less the rest of the 
>people that discussed about xen on the debian-devel list.
>
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    I'm not sure how we have to deal with it if Bastian's packages make
it from NEW status into the actual archive. I guess it would depend on
what binary package names he used. If he didn't just simply replace
Adam's packages with the newer version than we may not have to deal with
it much and just have him put in temporary transitions that prefer our
packages to his and then remove before they go into testing (ie-
unstable only) at which point we shouldn't have to deal with it. Of
course this is conjecture until we see how he actually packaged.

>We should mail the ftp-masters + cc to debian-devel, pkg-xen-devel, bastian & 
>adam and tell publicy that we want to provide xen packages (for userspace and 
>hypervisor) and that there seems to be a consense for that and that we would 
>like for that reason that bastian packages gets rejected + that we would like 
>again that bastian + adam to join our efforts.
>
>That would make clear that we want to "takeover" but with the possibility that 
>everybody that wants to contribute can join us easily. And it would inform 
>everybody about our plans, so not someone else tries to have our packages 
>rejected too.
>
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    This sounds like a logical course of action. We have not wanted to
exclude anyone, merely form up as a team to manage it. In the absense of
response from Adam we continued forward. Nothing is stopping anyone from
joining the effort as more hands make for light work. I think Bastian
would make a great addition as he would be able to handle things in
areas we might not be able to do so as easily.

>argh, I am wondering a bit... at first it seems to me that there is no 
>interessting for xen3 in debian and I made my own packages and now there are 
>soooo many people interessted in xen3 and starting a fight about who will 
>take over adams work...  is debian always so "political"? :)
>
>--Ralph
>
    Welcome to the world of Debian and it's politics... It is a fact of
life and I try to avoid as much of it as possible for my own sanity.
I've had a few people try to takeover a package or two of mine; however,
unlike Adam I've always been responsive immediately to keep things like
this from happening. Faced with a vacuum, problems will arise. In some
instances I've taken on co-maintainers, otherwise I've expressed no
desire for giving it up or taking on co-maintainers.

    Within any group of size you'll have to deal with this kind of
internal power playing.

    Regards,
    Jeremy