[Pkg-xmpp-devel] Swift IM problem

[* Neustradamus *]

Thanks Tobias for your answer.

The Swift IM is now a proprietary software, no opensource development since 2020-01-09:
- https://swift.im/git/swift/log/
- https://github.com/swift/swift/commits/master/

About Spectrum IM:
- A recent ticket: https://github.com/SpectrumIM/spectrum2/issues/512
- An old PR has been never merged/finished: https://github.com/SpectrumIM/spectrum2/pull/470#issuecomment-3218396209

A long time ago, Spectrum IM was at the top but now, we are in 2025, Slidge has taken the place...

Note: One author of Swift IM was one maintainer of Psi IM project. The Psi IM project always exists since 24 years old (2001-07-07) and the latest Psi+ version has been released few days ago, it is the moment to update in Debian? I have done a previous e-mail about it. Any help is welcome.

Neustradamus
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From: Tobias Frost <tobi at debian.org>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2025 19:10
To: * Neustradamus *
Cc: pkg-xmpp-devel at alioth-lists.debian.net
Subject: Re: Swift IM problem

On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 12:58:06AM +0000, * Neustradamus * wrote:
> Dear Tobias Frost, and Debian XMPP Maintainers,
>
> I see that an unstable version (Alpha) of Swift IM is here:
> - https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-xmpp-devel/2025-August/007524.html
> - https://packages.debian.org/source/swift-im
>
> I think it is the moment to remove Swift IM and deps, the development has been stopped several years ago.
> - https://github.com/swift/swift/commits/master/

Are they any specific reasonse beside "upstream ceased developement"
that you think swift-im should be retired, like actual problems with
it?

/me has packagd swift-im as dependendy of spectrum2, and as I am using
spectrum2 as a irc/xmpp bridge, so I have plans to continue maintaining
both (and libcommuni too).

> It is an Isode proprietary software now:
> - https://www.isode.com/product/xmpp-client/
> - https://www.isode.com/swift-6-1-new-capabilities/

(That's seems like a completly different product and orthogonal to
the swift-im we're talking about.

> Note: I have done a publication here, a long time ago, 2023-11-03:
> - https://github.com/swift/swift/issues/135
>
> Regards,
>
> Neustradamus

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tobi