[Pkg-xmpp-devel] Swift IM problem

Tobias Frost tobi at debian.org
Mon Aug 25 18:10:09 BST 2025


On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 12:58:06AM +0000, * Neustradamus * wrote:
> Dear Tobias Frost, and Debian XMPP Maintainers,
> 
> I see that an unstable version (Alpha) of Swift IM is here:
> - https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-xmpp-devel/2025-August/007524.html
> - https://packages.debian.org/source/swift-im
> 
> I think it is the moment to remove Swift IM and deps, the development has been stopped several years ago.
> - https://github.com/swift/swift/commits/master/

Are they any specific reasonse beside "upstream ceased developement"
that you think swift-im should be retired, like actual problems with
it?

/me has packagd swift-im as dependendy of spectrum2, and as I am using
spectrum2 as a irc/xmpp bridge, so I have plans to continue maintaining
both (and libcommuni too).

> It is an Isode proprietary software now:
> - https://www.isode.com/product/xmpp-client/
> - https://www.isode.com/swift-6-1-new-capabilities/

(That's seems like a completly different product and orthogonal to
the swift-im we're talking about.

> Note: I have done a publication here, a long time ago, 2023-11-03:
> - https://github.com/swift/swift/issues/135
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neustradamus

-- 
tobi



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