[sane-devel] Need sane docs
gheskett at shentel.net
Thu May 5 00:10:18 UTC 2016
On Wednesday 04 May 2016 19:44:32 Roger wrote:
> >That long piece of Belden Cat5e managed to survive a 112 mph wind in
> > 2010 that took down 3 40 yo pines, all our privacy fence, 50 square
> > feet of shingles off the roof, a couple shingles off the shop
> > building and flying debris damaged some siding & guttering. And the
> > cable still functions right now.
> >Knowing what that cable has been through, I haven't a clue why it
> > still is, but 400 MiB have passed since the lathes box was last
> > rebooted, and ifconfig says zero errors of any kind.
> >So this place is wired, but its all 100mbit stuff. Checking this
> > boards manual, it says gigabit. So its the external stuff that
> > predates this board that is the speed limit. I'll see if I can find
> > a gigabit switch as a start to upgrading to a gigabit. That would
> > allow gigabit to this device
> I tend to use non-metallic conduit to encase my low-voltage wires,
> especially when running wire outside the house, or exterior areas.
> (ie. Underground.)
> This house though, I merrily ran CAT-6 on the underside of the house
> within the crawl space which is protected by cement block walls and a
> cement slab. No need for non-metallic conduit, except for strapping
> the multiple cables to something for support. If you are not using
> teflon coated wire, non-metallic conduit is the preferred method. And
> if upgrading or repairing, just yank and pull new wire.
> CAT-5e is almost as good as CAT-6, and you maybe able to acheive
> Gigabit speeds, but from the sounds of it, you'll be really lucky.
> Either way, you'll likely fair much better with Gigabit ethernet cards
> and Gigabit routers.
> >Back on topic, it seems I cannot run saned as a background daemon,
> > but I can't find where its disabled. I found a debug log that
> > apparently is being generated by saned, and here are the results of
> > the last attempt to start it:
> >May 4 00:53:43 coyote saned: saned (AF-indep+IPv6) from
> > sane-backends 1.0.22 starting up May 4 00:53:43 coyote
> > saned: do_bindings:  bind failed: Address already in use
> > May 4 00:53:43 coyote saned: do_bindings:  bind failed:
> > Address already in use May 4 00:53:43 coyote saned:
> > do_bindings: couldn't bind an address. Exiting. May 4 00:53:43
> > coyote saned: FATAL ERROR; bailing out, waiting for
> > children... May 4 00:53:43 coyote saned: bail_out: all
> > children exited ============================
> >So thats a very non-informative log. :( How do I make it tell me
> > what addresses fail?
> Shrugs. Be glad that it's open source, and you can grep the source
> code? I see you found commenting a line within the dll.conf made the
> network sane method work. Sounds like the same stumbling block I
> encountered a decade or more ago. Dropped or tapped a hole into the
> firewall? Ghosted saned process?
> Oh, and beer typically doesn't have sugar. Although micro brewers
> tend to add a little just after bottling and prior to capping; for
> boosting the yeast or natural carbonation just after capping. The
> sour taste at the bottom of the bottle is supposedly this sugary
> mixture, now very sour. As such, the bottom 1/4-1/2 inch of the
> bottle is suppose to be typically spilled by the drinker.
FYI Roger, a chemistry lesson as it applies to diabetics, the alcohol in
the beer is turned into sugar (from whence it came) by everyones liver,
at a quite efficient rate of production. which explains the reference to
near beer, Miller64 is about 2.7%, and even so I can still see each one
on a glucose test strip. That excess glucose/sugar is eliminated by the
kidneys, so we "recycle the coffee" about 2x as often as a normal person
would. That sugar's damage to the kidneys is just one of the life
threatening effects of diabetes. So we take metformin & live 20 years
longer, but its a bit hard on the GI tract, so we spend 10 of that 20 on
the throne. It seems to turn sugary stuff into a very efficient
More than you wanted to know I expect. :)
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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