[sane-devel] Fujitsu iX500 - No scanners were identified.

Jiri j at ganomi.com
Mon Nov 21 11:40:48 UTC 2016


Hi,

[Debian Sid]

I started having problem with Fujitsu iX500 scanner after upgrade. It
used to work fine, but now it seems the system identifies the scanner
for a just a while and but apps cannot use it.

Here is example. I run the following command two times right after each
other. The scanner is recognized on first run (after plugging USB in),
but when I run it second time it says the scanner was not identified.

Any help would be appreciated.


ganomi at knightrider:~$ SANE_DEBUG_FUJITSU=15 scanimage -L 
[sanei_debug] Setting debug level of fujitsu to 15.
[fujitsu] sane_init: start
[fujitsu] sane_init: fujitsu backend 1.0.127, from sane-backends 1.0.25
[fujitsu] sane_init: finish
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: start
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: reading config file fujitsu.conf
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: setting "buffer-size" to 65536
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'scsi FUJITSU'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1041'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1042'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1078'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1095'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1096'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1097'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10ad'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10ae'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10af'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10cf'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10e0'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10e1'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10e2'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10e6'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10e7'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10f2'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10fe'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1135'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x114a'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: config option "buffer-size" (262144) is >
65536, warning!
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: setting "buffer-size" to 262144
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x114d'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x114e'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x114f'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1150'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1155'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x116f'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1174'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1175'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1176'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1177'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1178'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x119d'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x119e'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11a2'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11f1'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11f2'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11f3'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11f4'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11fc'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1213'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x128e'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x132b'
[fujitsu] attach_one: start
[fujitsu] attach_one: looking for 'libusb:003:004'
[fujitsu] connect_fd: start
[fujitsu] connect_fd: opening USB device
[fujitsu] wait_scanner: start
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: start
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: finish
[fujitsu] wait_scanner: finish
[fujitsu] connect_fd: finish
[fujitsu] init_inquire: start
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: start
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: finish
[fujitsu] init_inquire: Found FUJITSU scanner ScanSnap iX500 version
0L00 at libusb:003:004
[fujitsu] inquiry options
[fujitsu]   color offset: 0 lines
[fujitsu]   long gray scan: 1
[fujitsu]   long color scan: 1
[fujitsu]   emulation mode: 0
[fujitsu]   CMP/CGA: 0
[fujitsu]   background back: 0
[fujitsu]   background front: 0
[fujitsu]   background fb: 0
[fujitsu]   back only scan: 1
[fujitsu]   duplex offset: 0 lines
[fujitsu] init_inquire: finish
[fujitsu] init_vpd: start
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: start
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: finish
[fujitsu] init_vpd: length=8b
[fujitsu] standard options
[fujitsu]   basic x res: 600 dpi
[fujitsu]   basic y res: 600 dpi
[fujitsu]   step x res: 1 dpi
[fujitsu]   step y res: 1 dpi
[fujitsu]   max x res: 600 dpi
[fujitsu]   max y res: 600 dpi
[fujitsu]   min x res: 50 dpi
[fujitsu]   min y res: 50 dpi
[fujitsu]   60 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   75 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   100 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   120 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   150 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   160 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   180 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   200 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   240 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   300 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   320 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   400 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   480 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   600 dpi: 1
[fujitsu]   800 dpi: 0
[fujitsu]   1200 dpi: 0
[fujitsu]   max width: 8.71 inches
[fujitsu]   max length: 34.52 inches
[fujitsu]   overflow: 1
[fujitsu]   monochrome: 1
[fujitsu]   halftone: 1
[fujitsu]   grayscale: 1
[fujitsu]   color_monochrome: 0
[fujitsu]   color_halftone: 0
[fujitsu]   color_grayscale: 1
[fujitsu] vendor options
[fujitsu]   adf: 1
[fujitsu]   flatbed: 0
[fujitsu]   transparency: 0
[fujitsu]   duplex: 1
[fujitsu]   back endorser: 0
[fujitsu]   barcode: 0
[fujitsu]   operator panel: 1
[fujitsu]   front endorser: 0
[fujitsu]   multi-purpose stacker: 0
[fujitsu]   prepick: 0
[fujitsu]   mf detect: 0
[fujitsu]   paper protection: 0
[fujitsu]   A/D bits: 10
[fujitsu]   buffer bytes: 402653184
[fujitsu] Standard commands
[fujitsu]   mode_sense_10 cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   mode_select_10 cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   log_sense cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   log_select cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   change cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   read_buffer cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   write_buffer cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   copy_and_verify cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   compare cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   get_d_b_status cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   object_pos cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   send cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   read cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   get_window cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   set_window cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   send_diag cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   read_diag cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   scan cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   mode_sense_6 cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   copy cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   release cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   reserve_unit cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   mode_select_6 cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   inquiry cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   request_sense cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   test_unit_ready cmd: 1
[fujitsu] Vendor commands
[fujitsu]   subwindow cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   endorser cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   hardware status cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   hardware status 2 cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   hardware status 3 cmd: 0
[fujitsu]   scanner control cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   device restart cmd: 1
[fujitsu]   brightness steps: 0
[fujitsu]   threshold steps: 255
[fujitsu]   contrast steps: 0
[fujitsu]   built in gamma patterns: 0
[fujitsu]   download gamma patterns: 1
[fujitsu]   built in dither patterns: 4
[fujitsu]   download dither patterns: 1
[fujitsu]   RIF: 1
[fujitsu]   DTC (AutoI): 0
[fujitsu]   SDTC (AutoII): 1
[fujitsu]   outline extraction: 0
[fujitsu]   image emphasis: 1
[fujitsu]   automatic separation: 0
[fujitsu]   mirror image: 0
[fujitsu]   white level follower: 0
[fujitsu]   subwindow: 0
[fujitsu]   diffusion: 1
[fujitsu]   ipc3: 0
[fujitsu]   rotation: 0
[fujitsu]   hybrid crop deskew: 0
[fujitsu]   ipc2 byte 67: 0
[fujitsu]   compression MH: 0
[fujitsu]   compression MR: 0
[fujitsu]   compression MMR: 0
[fujitsu]   compression JBIG: 0
[fujitsu]   compression JPG1: 1
[fujitsu]   (Disabled)
[fujitsu]   compression JPG2: 0
[fujitsu]   compression JPG3: 0
[fujitsu]   back endorser mech: 0
[fujitsu]   back endorser stamp: 0
[fujitsu]   back endorser elec: 0
[fujitsu]   endorser max id: 0
[fujitsu]   front endorser mech: 0
[fujitsu]   front endorser stamp: 0
[fujitsu]   front endorser elec: 0
[fujitsu]   back endorser type: 0
[fujitsu]   back endorser type: 0
[fujitsu]   connection type: 3
[fujitsu]   endorser ext: 0
[fujitsu]   endorser pr_b: 0
[fujitsu]   endorser pr_f: 0
[fujitsu]   endorser po_b: 0
[fujitsu]   endorser po_f: 0
[fujitsu]   horizontal overscan: 153
[fujitsu]   vertical overscan: 153
[fujitsu]   default bg adf b: 0
[fujitsu]   default bg adf f: 0
[fujitsu]   default bg fb: 0
[fujitsu]   auto color: 1
[fujitsu]   blank skip: 1
[fujitsu]   multi image: 0
[fujitsu]   f b type indep: 0
[fujitsu]   f b res indep: 0
[fujitsu]   dropout spec: 0
[fujitsu]   dropout non: 0
[fujitsu]   dropout white: 0
[fujitsu]   skew check: 0
[fujitsu]   new feed roller: 0
[fujitsu]   paper count: 0
[fujitsu]   paper number: 0
[fujitsu]   ext send to: 0
[fujitsu]   staple det: 0
[fujitsu]   pause host: 0
[fujitsu]   pause panel: 0
[fujitsu]   pause conf: 0
[fujitsu]   hq print: 0
[fujitsu]   ext GHS len: 0
[fujitsu]   smbc func: 0
[fujitsu]   imprint chk b: 0
[fujitsu]   imprint chk f: 0
[fujitsu]   force w bg: 0
[fujitsu]   mf recover lvl: 0
[fujitsu]   first read time: 1
[fujitsu]   div scanning: 0
[fujitsu]   start job: 1
[fujitsu]   lifetime log: 1
[fujitsu]   imff save rest: 0
[fujitsu]   wide scsi type: 0
[fujitsu]   lut hybrid crop: 0
[fujitsu]   over under amt: 0
[fujitsu]   rgb lut: 0
[fujitsu]   num lut dl: 0
[fujitsu]   ErP Lot6 (power off timer): 1
[fujitsu]   sync next feed: 1
[fujitsu]   object postion halt: 0
[fujitsu] init_vpd: finish
[fujitsu] init_ms: start
[fujitsu]   autocolor: 0
[fujitsu]   prepick: 0
[fujitsu]   sleep: 0
[fujitsu]   duplex: 0
[fujitsu]   rand: 0
[fujitsu]   bg: 0
[fujitsu]   df: 0
[fujitsu]   dropout: 0
[fujitsu]   buff: 0
[fujitsu]   auto: 0
[fujitsu]   lamp: 0
[fujitsu]   jobsep: 0
[fujitsu] init_ms: finish
[fujitsu] init_model: start
[fujitsu] init_model: finish
[fujitsu] init_user: start
[fujitsu] init_user: finish
[fujitsu] init_options: start
[fujitsu] init_options: finish
[fujitsu] init_interlace: start
[fujitsu] update_params: start
[fujitsu] update_params: x: max=10448, page=10200, gpw=10200, res=600
[fujitsu] update_params: y: max=41424, page=13200, gph=13200, res=600
[fujitsu] update_params: area: tlx=0, brx=10200, tly=0, bry=13200
[fujitsu] update_params: params: ppl=5100, Bpl=15300, lines=6600
[fujitsu] update_params: params: format=1, depth=8, last=1
[fujitsu] update_u_params: start
[fujitsu] update_u_params: finish
[fujitsu] update_params: finish
[fujitsu] init_interlace: color_interlace: 1
[fujitsu] init_interlace: finish
[fujitsu] init_serial: start
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: start
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: finish
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: start
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: finish
[fujitsu] init_serial: found sn 64324
[fujitsu] init_serial: serial_name: ScanSnap iX500:64324
[fujitsu] init_serial: finish
[fujitsu] disconnect_fd: start
[fujitsu] disconnecting usb device
[fujitsu] disconnect_fd: finish
[fujitsu] attach_one: finish
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x132c'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x132d'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x132e'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x132f'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x13f4'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: found scanner libusb:003:004
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: found 1 scanner(s)
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: finish
device `fujitsu:ScanSnap iX500:64324' is a FUJITSU ScanSnap iX500
scanner
[fujitsu] sane_exit: start
[fujitsu] disconnect_fd: start
[fujitsu] disconnect_fd: finish
[fujitsu] sane_exit: finish
ganomi at knightrider:~$ SANE_DEBUG_FUJITSU=15 scanimage -L 
[sanei_debug] Setting debug level of fujitsu to 15.
[fujitsu] sane_init: start
[fujitsu] sane_init: fujitsu backend 1.0.127, from sane-backends 1.0.25
[fujitsu] sane_init: finish
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: start
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: reading config file fujitsu.conf
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: setting "buffer-size" to 65536
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'scsi FUJITSU'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1041'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1042'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1078'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1095'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1096'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1097'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10ad'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10ae'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10af'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10cf'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10e0'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10e1'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10e2'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10e6'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10e7'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10f2'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x10fe'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1135'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x114a'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: config option "buffer-size" (262144) is >
65536, warning!
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: setting "buffer-size" to 262144
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x114d'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x114e'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x114f'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1150'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1155'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x116f'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1174'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1175'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1176'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1177'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1178'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x119d'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x119e'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11a2'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11f1'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11f2'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11f3'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11f4'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x11fc'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x1213'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x128e'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x132b'
[fujitsu] attach_one: start
[fujitsu] attach_one: looking for 'libusb:003:004'
[fujitsu] connect_fd: start
[fujitsu] connect_fd: opening USB device
[fujitsu] wait_scanner: start
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: start
[fujitsu] stat: return error 'Error during device I/O'
[fujitsu] WARNING: Brain-dead scanner. Hitting with stick
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: start
[fujitsu] stat: return error 'Error during device I/O'
[fujitsu] WARNING: Brain-dead scanner. Hitting with stick again
[fujitsu] do_usb_cmd: start
[fujitsu] stat: return error 'Error during device I/O'
[fujitsu] wait_scanner: error 'Error during device I/O'
[fujitsu] wait_scanner: finish
[fujitsu] connect_fd: could not wait_scanner
[fujitsu] disconnect_fd: start
[fujitsu] disconnecting usb device
[fujitsu] disconnect_fd: finish
[fujitsu] connect_fd: finish
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x132c'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x132d'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x132e'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x132f'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: looking for 'usb 0x04c5 0x13f4'
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: found 0 scanner(s)
[fujitsu] sane_get_devices: finish

No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
[fujitsu] sane_exit: start
[fujitsu] sane_exit: finish
ganomi at knightrider:~$ sane-find-scanner 

  # sane-find-scanner will now attempt to detect your scanner. If the
  # result is different from what you expected, first make sure your
  # scanner is powered up and properly connected to your computer.

  # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make
sure that
  # you have loaded a kernel SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter.

could not open USB device 0x8087/0x8001 at 001:002: Access denied
(insufficient permissions)
could not open USB device 0x1d6b/0x0002 at 001:001: Access denied
(insufficient permissions)
found USB scanner (vendor=0x04c5 [Fujitsu], product=0x132b [ScanSnap
iX500]) at libusb:003:004
could not open USB device 0x1d6b/0x0003 at 003:001: Access denied
(insufficient permissions)
could not open USB device 0x04f2/0xb45d at 002:005: Access denied
(insufficient permissions)
could not open USB device 0x8087/0x0a2a at 002:004: Access denied
(insufficient permissions)
could not open USB device 0x138a/0x0017 at 002:003: Access denied
(insufficient permissions)
could not open USB device 0x04f3/0x012d at 002:002: Access denied
(insufficient permissions)
could not open USB device 0x1d6b/0x0002 at 002:001: Access denied
(insufficient permissions)
  # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be
supported by
  # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.

  # Not checking for parallel port scanners.

  # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary
ports
  # can't be detected by this program.

  # You may want to run this program as root to find all devices. Once
you
  # found the scanner devices, be sure to adjust access permissions as
  # necessary


Again after I plug the USB in my computer...

ganomi at knightrider:~$ SANE_DEBUG_SNAPSCAN=128 scanimage -L
[sanei_debug] Setting debug level of snapscan to 128.
[snapscan] sane_snapscan_init
[snapscan] sane_snapscan_init: Snapscan backend version 1.4.53
[snapscan] sane_snapscan_get_devices (0x7ffd9e003240, 0)
device `fujitsu:ScanSnap iX500:64324' is a FUJITSU ScanSnap iX500
scanner
[snapscan] sane_snapscan_exit

ganomi at knightrider:~$ SANE_DEBUG_SNAPSCAN=128 scanimage -L
[sanei_debug] Setting debug level of snapscan to 128.
[snapscan] sane_snapscan_init
[snapscan] sane_snapscan_init: Snapscan backend version 1.4.53
[snapscan] sane_snapscan_get_devices (0x7ffd2ac76300, 0)

No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
[snapscan] sane_snapscan_exit


Thanks Jiri
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