[Showme-devel] Sponsoring the ShowMeBox
Kristoffer Rose
krisrose at debian.org
Wed Nov 4 22:22:32 UTC 2015
Dear Jonas, Bernelle, Everyone,
I agree with what has been said.
I have shared the "draft call for comments" mail with the Two Sigma tem,
and we will have comments in some weeks (the datathon team is on college
tour).
Again: Two Sigma's interest will be primarily to promote Data Science
awareness and skills, and subsidiarily (but it will make a difference) to
promote using the beaker notebook.
Cheers,
Kris
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
> Quoting Bernelle Verster (2015-11-04 16:23:19)
> > On the other hand, in Kris's competition people weren't forced to use
> > any particular box or software, but there was only support for Beaker.
>
> A key strength of Beaker compared to other Notebook tools is, I believe,
> its ability to run on both Windows, MacOS and Linux, and to integrate
> with many software tools. Therefore not surprising to me that their
> competition was relaxed about those variables.
>
> A key strength of Debian compared to other operating systems is its
> ability to be deployed on many different hardware architectures -
> including cheap ARM boxes...
>
> Let's make this a demo of Debian's ability to run on cheap boxes. But a
> demo on _usability_ rather than _variety_ of that - so just one box that
> we tested ahead, exposed to users interested in a software challenge
> (not a variety of boxes less tested - that would require users
> interested in hardware tinkering).
>
>
> > Another thought I'm still grappling with is how to build collaboration
> > and mentorship between student entrants and the wider Debian
> > community.
>
> Maybe try get others involved who are already experienced with this:
> https://www.debian.org/women/mentoring
> https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2015
>
>
> > Then this raises more questions:
> > * Will [any non-student] be able to buy the ShowMeBox for themselves?
>
> Short answer: Yes!
>
> ShowMeBox uses generally available hardware.
>
> Debian generally decides which hardware architectures to support based
> on a) availability of enthusiasts hacking on it and b) availability of
> the hardware in shops. As an example of that, the architecture we call
> "i386" nowadays is a subset of IA32 _excluding_ i386 and we currently
> discuss if it is time to also stop support i486 (or is it even i586?).
>
> Specifically, Olimex OLinuXino A20 LIME2 is for sale worldwide from
> Olimex themselves and also from multiple resellers.
>
>
> > * and if so, could they subsidise the students' boxes? In other words,
> > we make e.g. 200% 'profit' on their Box that we then use to buy Boxes
> > for students?
>
> I have no interest in that. If others do then enjoy!
>
> Beware that such activity might be too commercial in nature for Debian
> or SPI, so you may need to find some for-profit legal body to operate
> within.
>
>
> - Jonas
>
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